Not enough new houses having ample wired networking points

[japlytic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k7ASyvCYDk

And don't forget to read the brief description.

[dood]

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When my dad built his house a few years ago, it was spec'ed with a single cable and single phone drop on each floor. I told the contractor that I would be adding in a few design features before they closed the walls in.... he had no problem with that. As such, each of the 4 bedrooms had cable, phone, and network, and my bedroom had cable, phone, and 3 network. Downstairs got a single network drop where my dad was putting the computer.

I ran all the network down through the walls to an area under the basement stairs where I mounted a shelf and put in a switch. The cable line for the upstairs came up through my closet, so I put a 4 gang box there, with the splitter in it, and put a blank plate on it so I would still have access to the junction if anything went wrong.

Once the drywall was up, it looked like the builder had spec'ed it like that.

[retiredcaps]

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I had my house built 13 years ago. I asked about putting cat 5 into every room of the house. Back then, it cost $150 per room. I said forget it.

BTW, back then I had the proper tools to crimp and build my own cat 5 cables, so I thought it was an outrageous price.

My download speeds from the ISP flucuates between 5Mbps to 20Mbps today. Any *decent* G router/G card should do that easily.

[pentium]

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People generally think that wireless is more inferior than a wired network for the simple fact that it makes your systems a lot more portable. Unfortunately it saturates pretty fast when you got three computers, a game console, and possibly the neighbor running off wireless.

[kaniki]

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they must have went cheap on that construction.... either that or i am way too picky. I have no problem with wafer board on the walls, but on the riser of the steps??

i would not mind having that kind of stuff run to the second floor, but the electric up there is still the old knob and tubing stuff, dont want too much run up there all the time.. better safe then sorry.. but i am planning on doing what you did with the coax.. i have the internal boxes, face plates, compression crimpers and ends and the RJ6 cable here.. just be a bit before i get it run.

[stj]

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wifi is crap for homes,
other than no channels free because all your street uses it,
you have limited bandwidth and poor latency.

not too good for streaming HD round the house for example.
i know a number of people with HD tv's round the house, the tv's are fed from PS3's that get ripped HD film from a central fileserver over gigabit network.

[dood]

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they must have went cheap on that construction.... either that or i am way too picky. I have no problem with wafer board on the walls, but on the riser of the steps??

It's just on the backs *shrug*. I don't see a problem with it... not like you're stepping there... and it is just for a basement. Our old basement stairs were a similar construction, but they were just open with nothing on the backs at all.

[Scenic]

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@ dood: what's that blue router thingy?
just asking because i've got what looks like a clone of this, made by "Roline" (Designed in Switzerland .. bottom says made in china lol).. it's boring computer-beige though.
worst POS router i've encountered so far.. relatively OK built on the inside.. but the firmware.. ugh.. overly complicated + locks up more often than a woman changes moods.. >.<

[dood]

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Scenic - it's a Gigafast

[ratdude747]

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my house was a 1941 build. it has 3 network lines in it, one was there when we bought it, i just added the other two myself... one to the computer room, one to the attic bed room (my room), and one to the basement server. the main switch is a asante 10/100 8 port switch in the basement. we will also have wireless g in it... the modem for phone and internet is in the attic, and so will be the wireless router, with my rig and a lan fax machine. once the wiring is upgraded, the computer room will have a wireless switch (router with dhcp off) and my parent's computers. the basement will have the two other lines, a line to the server, and 5 ports for expansion.

it all is in good order... the attic line was run last week... fun...

[Colt45ws]

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Couple years ago I bought 500' of Cat5e and wired up the house. It was fairly simple in concept. I already had a phone or cable outlet where I needed a network point, and the boxes dropped straight down into a crawlspace beneath the house. So it was just feed the wire down one hole and go underneath and find the right hole to feed it back up. Pain in the butt though. Hard to maneuver down there. Have all 4 bedrooms wired now plus the living room tv. They feed back to a corner of the living room where I have the 8 port 10/100 switch which is plugged into my server/router. A recent addition is a TrendNet N access point which I added for my brother's laptop.
I did recently fail a 5 port switch in my room though. Bad packet loss with large payloads. Im using a DDWRT54G with everything disabled temporarily until I upgrade to gigabit equipment.

[c_hegge]

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Our house has a cat 5 running between my workshop and my parent's office. My PC and the modem router go in the workshop and the family PC is in the office. Since I have a 4 port modem-router, it allows for the family PC (using the cat 5 to the office), my PC and two others in the workshop plus whatever connects to it wirelessly.

[mattch]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k7ASyvCYDk

And don't forget to read the brief description.

Such an informative video on you tube. i would subscribe to the series

[ratdude747]

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some pics of my work:

first, i ran a LAN line and a phone line from the basement to the attic, as the modew that gives us phone service and internet access is up there (strongest cable signal). pics of how it was run:

my desk will be against the handrail once all is moved in. the computer desk there now (my dad's) is on the other side of room, the phone cord and lan cord are extended using inline couplers and extra cables- the phone cord had two jacks on the end, so i just took another 4 wire cord and ran it to the modem.



how it is actualy ran:



i only had to drill one hole using this method. however, there was a second layer to go through in the basement (celing), but it already had a hole 10" away.

anyway, the new phone line (white), the new LAN line to the attic (black), the server LAN line (off-white), and the existing LAN line (blue):



a close up of the hub:


the other end of the existing LAN line (goes to the computer room, as you will see, they used PLENTY of cable, which might be nice)



what is on the other end of the server LAN line i ran a few weeks ago (on the other side of the wall):



i also had to add a new phone cord out of the main phone splice to connect o the new line to the attic (beige):



and i made a makeshift phone jack where the two cords meet:



i also added a cable splitter (1000mhz) for where another line will be ran. it will either go to my parent's bedroom or the fitness room in the basement, depending on where our other tv will fit. for now, the splitter is mounted and the line is in, but nothing else yet:

[ratdude747]

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i finished it off today- adding more cable clips to make it look nicer and kep the wire where it should be. I also added a clip, restraining the line in the computer room so the wire doesn't fall though, onto my rat cages below..

[NxB]

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looks a bit ghetto but it will work and probably cheap

[ratdude747]

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what is ghetto? it's better than it was... the pre-existing line was flopping all over. now, the runs are properly restrained.

you could be right, but i was not in the mood to rip out a bunch of old plaster and lath and crap to run a few wires. if tv lines are done that way in old retro-fits, then i thought the one line is fine once tied down right and the other two are good. the server kine and the attic line are good, i'm posting from the server now. i tested the old line briefly with my netbook, the room has no grounded outlets and it will not be retrofitted for a few weeks.

if you want ghetto, you should see how the icemaker and gas dryer pipes are secured, tho nails on each side of the pipe, or a wire romex u-nail. the icemaker line is unused (my fridge is form the 80's), the gas line has the nail heads dug in and making little dents and scrape marks in the line, we are having it replaced soon as well... it's useless anyway, nobody ever put an outlet by the dryer hook up anyway, all there is is the gas pipe and a 240v electric dryer hookup, no 120... morons!

[kaniki]

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does not sound too far off of my house.. I live in a house with full attic, basement, and 2 other floors.. when we first moved in, 2 outlets in the whole basement.. 2 in the living and dining room, none in the hallway.. and 4 fused to run the whole house. one fuse for the furnace, one for the light closest to the fuse box, one for its good looks (really, it did nothing, wasnt even hooked up).. should have put a smiley face on that one.. and the last fuse did the rest of the house.. they had connections with wire caps on it with no box.. just open right on the wall.. now that would be going toward the getto side. when i re-wired, i put in a breaker box, added a LOT of outlets, and lots of breakers, junction boxes, and new wiring..

as for the tearing down walls thing (Ratdude on that one), just do what i am doind while running new coax in the house.. get some of those plastic junction boxes that have that swinging lever that grips the existing wall, cut a whole in the wall, and get a faceplate and there you go.. it is run down the wall and no fixing of the wall.. plus with the connector on the faceplate, if you dont need or use it, no extra wire just rolled up in a corner.. it is a win win situation plus no cords to trip over too..

[ratdude747]

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good luck... there is no access to the insides of the walls from the basement... ruuning wire that way would be a real PITA.

[stj]

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it may be worth pointing out that fone cable should be kept a minimum of 3 inches from mains cables to avoid 50/60Hz induced hum on the fone line.
that's official in both u.k. & french telephone co wiring reg's

also, i'd keep UTP distanced from it because the fone rings at 90v and that could link through inductance into your network and cause packetloss.