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    #81
    Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

    Originally posted by seanc View Post
    You're best to replace them all, including the small one, following the recommendations in this thread.
    If the large capacitor isn't bulged, you can leave it alone.
    That's my plan. Thanks!!

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      #82
      Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

      PlainBill says he usually limits himself to Panasonic FC and FM series. Digikey doesn't have the FC or FM for my 470uF 25v 105C 8mm x 16 with 3.5mm spacing, but they have an FR series 470uF 25v 105C that is 8mm x 15 x 3.5 (here http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=P14417-ND). Is there any issue with the Panasonic FR series that should cause me not to consider it? It even has an 8000 Hrs @ 105C Lifetime @ Temp rating.

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        #83
        Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

        Originally posted by Lew View Post
        PlainBill says he usually limits himself to Panasonic FC and FM series. Digikey doesn't have the FC or FM for my 470uF 25v 105C 8mm x 16 with 3.5mm spacing, but they have an FR series 470uF 25v 105C that is 8mm x 15 x 3.5 (here http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=P14417-ND). Is there any issue with the Panasonic FR series that should cause me not to consider it? It even has an 8000 Hrs @ 105C Lifetime @ Temp rating.
        The FR series is relatively new as compared to the older FM/FC series and will work fine.

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          #84
          Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

          I think FR has too high of an ESR. You need to match the series properly.

          If you want a list of the exact type of capacitors and part numbers from digikey for this monitor, let me know, I have already ordered and recapped it. My list also includes the primary capacitor and all the capacitors on the logic board.
          "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

          -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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            #85
            Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

            Originally posted by mockingbird View Post
            I think FR has too high of an ESR. You need to match the series properly.

            If you want a list of the exact type of capacitors and part numbers from digikey for this monitor, let me know, I have already ordered and recapped it. My list also includes the primary capacitor and all the capacitors on the logic board.
            That would be fantastic. The list would make me feel a lot better since I'm a noob at this (although I did feel some new gray matter growing as a result of my "digi-key-ing").

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              #86
              Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

              QTY P/N
              2 P12366-ND Panasonic FM replaces Taicon HF
              4 P12389-ND Panasonic FM replaces Capxon KF
              1 565-1469-ND OPTIONAL (Big expensive capacitor)
              1 493-1575-ND Nichicon HE replaces Capxon GL
              1 493-1522-ND Nichicon HE replaces Jackcon LHK
              2 493-1578-ND Nichicon HE replaces Jackcon LHK
              4 493-1547-ND Nichicon HE replaces Jackcon LHK
              2 493-1548-ND Nichicon HE replaces Jackcon LHK
              2 565-1599-ND UCC KY replaces Jackcon General Purpose
              1 493-1887-ND Nichicon PW replaces Jackcon General Purpose

              When I ordered there was stock of everything.
              "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

              -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                #87
                Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                I also have a Sceptre X22WG-Gamer 22" monitor that is experiencing issues. Mine is much different than what I see posted here however. When I power on my monitor I will see pink and green dots all the display which I guess are pixels that arent changing color properly. After the monitor is on for awhile the dots mostly go away and are less aparent. Im a PC Tech so i've already made sure its not a video card or dvi cable issue ruling that out completely. Experienced this with the HDMI port also. I have NOT seen it happen while using the vga port. I've taken apart the monitor and inspected both the video board and the power board and didnt see any leaking or bubbled caps or burnt out resistors. Does anybody have any ideas ?? Im at a total loss here.

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                  #88
                  Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                  Originally posted by tecknogod View Post
                  When I power on my monitor I will see pink and green dots all the display which I guess are pixels that arent changing color properly.
                  1) We always ask people to post pictures of their own monitors because it is not uncommon for manufacturers to make revisions or even complete board changes and use the same model number. Even the smallest revision makes a huge difference.

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                    #89
                    Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                    Originally posted by severach View Post
                    Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD
                    Panel: AUO M220EW01 V.0 TN Film
                    Power Supply: FSP050-2L02 3BS0144112GP REV:1 E116921 K3502 2SK3502 SG6841SZ BI3101A
                    Video Board: AL012 REV.1 MTK810NGD MST9251DA-LF-165
                    Inverter Transformer: SPI 8TC00291

                    Another revision of the FSP050-2L02 uses a set of 4 transformers similar to the SPI 8TT00006.

                    Disassembly:
                    Do not remove 3 black angle head screws in back near connectors
                    Split front with putty knife working from any corner, no force extract LED from front cover
                    Panel: 4 gray angle head
                    Power Board: 2 gray plastic thread, 2 gray machine thread, 1 gray machine thread to ground lug
                    Video Board: 4 gray plastic thread, 4 VGA standoff, 1 gray machine thread at HDMI connector

                    Reassembly: Ensure all buttons click. Unfortunately the monitor must be mostly reassembled to test.

                    Bulged caps on power supply:
                    C551, C552: CapXon 470uf 25v (runs at 5v, good ESR=0.05, bad esr>=1.1)

                    Other caps that did not fail yet:
                    C664: CapXon 470uf 25v (runs at 12v)
                    C554: CapXon 470uf 25v (runs at 5v)
                    C1, C661: Taicon 1000uf 16v (runs at 12v)
                    C210: CapXon 33uf 35v (runs at 12v)

                    The video board has a dark spot near C37. C37 tests good.

                    C37: Jackcon 47uf 25v, esr=0.06 in circuit, esr=1.1 out of circuit

                    This TN Film panel running on DVI is as clear as my PVA monitors with excellent bleed control.

                    One person here on badcaps was able to fix their x22wg-Gamer entirely from the debug menu.
                    I replaced those caps and the monitor works like a champ!!! Thanks so much everyone for the help.

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                      #90
                      Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                      Well, I got my new caps in today and replaced them and my monitor now works perfectly. Another success story due to all the great help on this site. Thanks much to everyone, especially retiredcaps, and keep up the great work with the site.

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                        #91
                        Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                        Hi all,

                        I have X22WP-1080p that is working perfectly, however, I had a housefire that started in another room, but the heat got to my monitor and melted the top of the case.
                        My question is... does anyone know where I can get another case?

                        Thanks

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                          #92
                          Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                          Originally posted by TrueReb View Post
                          Hi all,

                          I have X22WP-1080p that is working perfectly, however, I had a housefire that started in another room, but the heat got to my monitor and melted the top of the case.
                          My question is... does anyone know where I can get another case?

                          Thanks
                          The only thing I can think of is to keep an eye open on Ebay for a similar model with a broken screen. Once you purchase it, strip it down for parts and use the case for your repair and resell the power supply and logic board to help offset your initial cost.

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                            #93
                            Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                            Add another success story to the list!! I replaced the four CapXon 470uf 25v, the two Taicon 1000uf 16v, and the CapXon 33uf 35v and it's working flawlessly on the VGA.

                            It's still a no go on the DVI and HDMI connection but I'm not going to pursue getting them to work based on mockingbird and PlainBill's experience to date with bird's connections, but I will stay tuned.

                            Thanks again to all you guys!!! Also, the DigiKey experience was excellent.

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                              #94
                              Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                              I no longer have the screen, but I'm still interested if someone gets the DVI and HDMI working...

                              Why didn't you end up also recapping the logic board? Not that you should, in fact, since it's working, I suggest you don't. It's very easy to destroy the logic board because it's a lot more difficult to solder than the PSU.
                              "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                              -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                                #95
                                Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                                Originally posted by mockingbird View Post
                                I no longer have the screen, but I'm still interested if someone gets the DVI and HDMI working...

                                Why didn't you end up also recapping the logic board? Not that you should, in fact, since it's working, I suggest you don't. It's very easy to destroy the logic board because it's a lot more difficult to solder than the PSU.
                                Wholly because of my lack of skill and confidence. This was my very first effort at doing any circuit board soldering (ever) and my assessment of the difficulty level of the logic board was the same as you say, "a lot more difficult". So I tested the monitor after replacing the power board caps but before fully re-assembling it. Since it worked, I decided to call it a day before I destroyed it.

                                I did go ahead and buy the caps for the logic board (that you included in the parts list) when I ordered the power board caps but just opted to call it a day while I was ahead. If it has problems later, I'll re-think it.

                                Thanks again!

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                                  #96
                                  Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                                  The dark spot (overheated?) on the board in photo 2 of the orig. post corresponds with component U4 (regulator?) on the other side of the board, photo 1. I have the same board with the same dark spot and my U4 looks like it overheated (not uniform in color). I also have some failed/bulging capacitors on the power board. I am thinking I'll replace the logic board also.

                                  Now if I can find one. Nothing on ebay.

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                                    #97
                                    Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                                    Went to turn on monitor and got a loud pop noise. It cycles in 2 second intervals making a buzz. I figure a cap or two went bad on the power supply. Can anyone see if C551 and C552 are bad? Thanks

                                    http://i.imgur.com/v3wHU.jpg
                                    http://i.imgur.com/qozDx.jpg
                                    http://i.imgur.com/QTJn3.jpg
                                    Last edited by clowncarni; 03-14-2011, 04:17 PM. Reason: spelling

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                                      #98
                                      Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                                      Originally posted by clowncarni View Post
                                      Can anyone see if C551 and C552 are bad?
                                      Post 29 (caps) and post 88 (how to attach pics) are applicable in your case.
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                                        #99
                                        Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                                        I tested the ESR on all the caps on my Sceptre X22wg-Gamer monitor's power supply and C551 and C552 were the only ones that were questionable. In my case, like the pictures provided by severach in the first posting of this thread, my C551 and C552 caps were the only ones bulging.

                                        I decided that since my C551 and C552 were obviously failing (bulging) and the ESRs on the other caps seemed reasonable, that I was going to only replace the TWO caps.
                                        Total cost of my repair parts was approx. $5 from Digikey.

                                        My monitor is working fine.

                                        From severach's posting:
                                        >"Bulged caps on power supply:
                                        >C551, C552: CapXon 470uf 25v (runs at 5v, good ESR=0.05, bad esr>=1.1)"

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                                          #100
                                          Re: Sceptre x22wg-Gamer 22" LCD

                                          Originally posted by FranklinP View Post
                                          I tested the ESR on all the caps on my Sceptre X22wg-Gamer monitor's power supply and C551 and C552 were the only ones that were questionable. In my case, like the pictures provided by severach in the first posting of this thread, my C551 and C552 caps were the only ones bulging.

                                          I decided that since my C551 and C552 were obviously failing (bulging) and the ESRs on the other caps seemed reasonable, that I was going to only replace the TWO caps.
                                          Total cost of my repair parts was approx. $5 from Digikey.

                                          My monitor is working fine.

                                          From severach's posting:
                                          >"Bulged caps on power supply:
                                          >C551, C552: CapXon 470uf 25v (runs at 5v, good ESR=0.05, bad esr>=1.1)"
                                          Ordinarily I recommend replacing all electrolytic caps, but would tend to agree that replacing only those which fail an ESR test makes sense.

                                          PlainBill
                                          For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                                          Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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