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  • xscp
    Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 20
    • Hungary

    #1

    Samsung 2693HM white screen

    Hi.

    I have a Samsung 2693HM that only displays a white screen when it's turned on.

    I took it apart and reseated the cables and it worked fine for a day or two, but then it came back. Reseating the cables don't seem to help anymore.

    I would like to try to fix it, or at least diagnose the problem to see if it's worth getting parts for it.

    I have no experience with electronics, I have access to a simple multimeter and can do basic soldering if needed.

    Any help would be appreciated.
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  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #2
    Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

    Pictures are really good apart from the first one - can you re take it.
    In Pic 5 right in the middle at the top below the connector ther is a small white fuse that looks to sat ?T 3A on it - can you test it.
    No power to the board meter on ohms 200 one probe to each side
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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    • xscp
      Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 20
      • Hungary

      #3
      Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

      I tested the fuse and the reading was going down from around 10 to 0.

      Also, when i move the main board it makes strange sounds, like if some small metal object would move around inside, i can't really locate where it comes from.
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      Last edited by xscp; 08-12-2014, 07:35 AM.

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      • selldoor
        Slow Learner
        • Dec 2010
        • 7870

        #4
        Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

        The ohms reading should not fall away - have you good battery in meter?
        Result should be the same as touching probes together.
        "Also, when i move the main board it makes strange sounds, like if some small metal object would move around inside, i can't really locate where it comes from."
        That is exactly what it is - I think it is the rectangular component to the right of the main processor. cant make it out - perhaps 530s or something.
        The screen can be turned from landscape to portrait and the little ball switches the picture.

        Suggest you read these to threads if you have not done already
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ghlight=2693HM

        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ghlight=2693HM
        Last edited by selldoor; 08-12-2014, 09:58 AM.
        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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        • xscp
          Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 20
          • Hungary

          #5
          Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

          I think I had the meter on wrong settings or something, I checked again and now it was 0 for both the fuse and the probes touched together.

          My t-con seems to be different than the one in the other thread. I followed what momaka wrote and measured VDDA, VEEG and VDDG, they were 5K, 41.9K and 99.8K in that order. I will measure the capacitors and voltages tomorrow.

          Are the highlighted components the ones he mentioned (D502, Q503, and Q504, and D504)? The labels are a bit cluttered.
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          • selldoor
            Slow Learner
            • Dec 2010
            • 7870

            #6
            Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

            Yes I think they are - it is not too critical as he is not testing those he says to test the
            capacitors part numbers C??? in the area around them - they are the buff/brown ones.
            Maybe as it is a slightly different board the caps may be better.

            Next time the board is in the machine can you try to remember to test the voltage on each side of the fuse with respect to ground.
            Hopefully Momaka will join in when you have the voltage tests and tell us what he thinks.
            Last edited by selldoor; 08-12-2014, 03:23 PM.
            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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            • xscp
              Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 20
              • Hungary

              #7
              Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

              The capacitors on the t-con seem fine, none of them had low resistance. The lowest was around 0.4K iirc.

              Both side of the fuse was 5.27V. VDDA, VDDG and VEEG were all 0.

              I checked the voltages on the psu at the connectors (5.3V / 18V / 24V) and they were ok.
              Last edited by xscp; 08-14-2014, 10:28 AM.

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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #8
                Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                Cant actually see the fuse? anyway can you test the voltage regulators - left hand side of the board one is a1117 18 the other ends in 33
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • xscp
                  Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 20
                  • Hungary

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                  I meant the fuse on the main board.

                  I tested the voltage regulators (the outer pins to the middle/ground, right?), 17-18 was 0 / 0.1-0.6V, 33 was 0 / 0.6-0.8V

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                    Please report in this format:
                    Big tab up, Black probe on chassis.
                    Left (1, GND)) = xxx V
                    Middle (2, or tab, output) = xxx V
                    Right (3, input) = xxx V
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • selldoor
                      Slow Learner
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7870

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                      Wrong - If you re doing a voltage test then black probe to chassis ground
                      and probe each pin, meter on vDC20
                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                      • xscp
                        Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 20
                        • Hungary

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                        J384 1117-18
                        Left = 0 V
                        Middle = 0 V
                        Right = 0.45 V - 0.75 V

                        J164 G1084-33
                        Left = 0 V
                        Middle = 0.45 V - 0.75 V
                        Right = 0.85 V - 1.05 V

                        The voltages were jumping up and down.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                          For the light of me, I cannot see the fuse on the T-CON board, I expect it to be close to the right side of the LVDS connector.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • mmartell
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 3189
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                            It *may* be on the left side of the lvds connector, on the top right of the barcode sticker labelled "FU10" but hard to tell.

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                            • mmartell
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 3189
                              • Canada

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                              Here..
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                              • xscp
                                Member
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 20
                                • Hungary

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                                Is that a fuse? I can't make a better picture at the moment, it has UD written on it if that helps.

                                Its resistance was 100 ohm (at first), voltages were 5.28V and 1.04V, with the latter jumping down to 0.8-0.9V and occasionally to 0V. When i checked the resistance again it was 245 ohm.
                                Last edited by xscp; 08-14-2014, 04:00 PM.

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                                • mmartell
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2013
                                  • 3189
                                  • Canada

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                                  Ya I can't be sure and I'm not familiar with that marking either.

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                                  • retiredcaps
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Apr 2010
                                    • 9271

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                                    A good fuse should measure less than 1.0 ohms.

                                    UD code suggests 3.15A 24V as per

                                    https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...7263e74802.pdf
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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                                      Originally posted by xscp
                                      The capacitors on the t-con seem fine, none of them had low resistance. The lowest was around 0.4K iirc.

                                      Both side of the fuse was 5.27V. VDDA, VDDG and VEEG were all 0.

                                      I checked the voltages on the psu at the connectors (5.3V / 18V / 24V) and they were ok.
                                      Originally posted by xscp
                                      Is that a fuse? I can't make a better picture at the moment, it has UD written on it if that helps.

                                      Its resistance was 100 ohm (at first), voltages were 5.28V and 1.04V, with the latter jumping down to 0.8-0.9V and occasionally to 0V. When i checked the resistance again it was 245 ohm.
                                      That is why I am confused because you indicated that it has 5.27V on both ends of the fuse but the regulators show almost nothing.
                                      So which FUSE did you test on the T-CON to get that 5.27V on both ends and now you have 5.28V on one end and 1.04V on the other end?
                                      Last edited by budm; 08-14-2014, 05:04 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • xscp
                                        Member
                                        • Aug 2014
                                        • 20
                                        • Hungary

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung 2693HM white screen

                                        Originally posted by selldoor
                                        Next time the board is in the machine can you try to remember to test the voltage on each side of the fuse with respect to ground.
                                        I thought he meant the fuse on the main board (picture 5), because that's what he mentioned in post 2. This one had 0 resistance and 5.27V on both sides.

                                        In my last post I wrote about the one on the t-con, the one pointed out by mmartell, this had 100 / 245 ohm resistance and 5.28V and 1.04V on its ends.
                                        Last edited by xscp; 08-14-2014, 05:35 PM.

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