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  • Razroid
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 27
    • Singapore

    #1

    Faulty Dell ST2210

    So last night, (at about 2am or so) I found a random dell ST2210 lying beside a dustbin, so what the hell, I took it back home and powered it on and boy was I happy, I thought I got a free working 22" screen.

    So just now, I reconfigured my current setup (laptop beside 20" screen) to 22" beside 20" and laptop under the table. After much painful cable routing and re-routing, everything was ready to go.
    So I fired up the laptop and booted into my desktop. I immediately noticed that the whites on the Dell display were yellow-ish compared to the 20" LG beside it, so I calibrated the colours and stuff.
    I increased the brightness beyond 75% and the screen shut off. So I turn the switch off and then back on, the display was up again. after 10 mins (or so), it shut down again.

    So more searching on google tells me that there is a bad capacitor in there somewhere.
    After 1 hour of careful prying with my knife, I got the power supply and the main circuit boards out (the only boards in there anyway) and checked for blown/bloated caps - nothing

    So anybody has any ideas? I don't want this display to go to waste :P

    TL;DR

    My dell screen shuts down by itself after 10 mins of use, disassembly does not show me any bad caps on the circuit boards, any ideas?



    Thanks guys!

    -UPDATE-

    I got replacement caps and replaced everything on the psu board, still shutting down, any ideas?
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 31014
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

    cfl tubes worn probably.

    btw - nice keyboard!

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    • selldoor
      Slow Learner
      • Dec 2010
      • 7870

      #3
      Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

      Can you post good clear straight on pictures of both sides of the boards.

      When its gone off if you switch it back on does it come on straight away
      Last edited by selldoor; 07-30-2014, 02:48 AM.
      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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      • Razroid
        Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 27
        • Singapore

        #4
        Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

        Originally posted by stj
        cfl tubes worn probably.

        btw - nice keyboard!
        What tubes? O.o
        Its a cm storm tk, love it!

        Originally posted by selldoor
        Can you post good clear straight on pictures of both sides of the boards.

        When its gone off if you switch it back on does it come on straight away
        The current picture on the main post the the board before cap replacement. I'll post new pics once I get back home later.

        When it goes off, it need to turn the main power off for half a minute before it lets me turn it back on. It also dies much faster on 100% brightness than 0%.

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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #5
          Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

          Tubes -- CCFL lamps in the panel - Reducing the brightness will help in short term
          There is another thread today on a Dell s2010 may have a similar problem but more developed.
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • Razroid
            Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 27
            • Singapore

            #6
            Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

            Originally posted by selldoor
            Tubes -- CCFL lamps in the panel - Reducing the brightness will help in short term
            There is another thread today on a Dell s2010 may have a similar problem but more developed.
            Can the tubes be replaced? O.o

            turning the brightness to 0% lets it run for 20 mins at best before shutting down

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            • Razroid
              Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 27
              • Singapore

              #7
              Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

              Best I can do for the images, phone's camera focusing is a pain in the arse :/

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              • Razroid
                Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 27
                • Singapore

                #8
                Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                Back Side:

                Driver Board:


                PSU Board:

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                  This model is known for having bad lamps, it uses only two lamps instead of 4 for the 22" so they are driven hard to get the same brightness as 4 lamps, cost cutting.
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...?sort=3&page=1
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • selldoor
                    Slow Learner
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7870

                    #10
                    Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                    Bulbs are quite difficult to replace - maybe the top one is in worse condition than the other
                    so try changing the cables around at the power board end and see if it makes any difference.
                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                    • Razroid
                      Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 27
                      • Singapore

                      #11
                      Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                      Originally posted by budm
                      This model is known for having bad lamps, it uses only two lamps instead of 4 for the 22" so they are driven hard to get the same brightness as 4 lamps, cost cutting.
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...?sort=3&page=1
                      I've always had high expectations for dell monitors :/

                      Originally posted by selldoor
                      Bulbs are quite difficult to replace - maybe the top one is in worse condition than the other
                      so try changing the cables around at the power board end and see if it makes any difference.
                      what do you mean by changing the cables around? O.o

                      Anyway, I did come across some lamps online some time back. Do you think I can replace the lamps? I've already spent some money on getting all the caps on the psu board replaced, I hope replacing the lamps will grant me another monitor to use :P

                      Also, the lamps are not all that expensive O.o Should I grab a spare pair incase I need to "reload" the monitor? or will the new lamps last me?

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                        You should try using the test lamps to verify the inverter function.
                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...er+testing+cfl
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Razroid
                          Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 27
                          • Singapore

                          #13
                          Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                          Originally posted by budm
                          You should try using the test lamps to verify the inverter function.
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...er+testing+cfl
                          where would I get a test lamp from? ._.

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                          • stj
                            Great Sage 齊天大聖
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 31014
                            • Albion

                            #14
                            Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                            *if* you pull the lamps out and find how long they are in mm then you can look here for tubes or LED upgrade.
                            http://stores.ebay.com/lcd-led-parts

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                              See the link on on post 12 on how to make test lamps.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                              Comment

                              • stj
                                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 31014
                                • Albion

                                #16
                                Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                                Originally posted by Razroid
                                where would I get a test lamp from? ._.
                                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...er+testing+cfl

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                                • Razroid
                                  Member
                                  • Jul 2014
                                  • 27
                                  • Singapore

                                  #17
                                  Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                                  Originally posted by stj
                                  *if* you pull the lamps out and find how long they are in mm then you can look here for tubes or LED upgrade.
                                  http://stores.ebay.com/lcd-led-parts
                                  The placed I linked has the specific ones for this monitor.. also, it's possible to upgrade to led strips? O.o

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  See the link on on post 12 on how to make test lamps.
                                  I don't happen to have a spare cfl lamp lying around :/ I do have an old viewsonic square monitor that has a busted panel but still turns on. Can I pull th e cfl tubes out of it and test the inverter using that?

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                                  • selldoor
                                    Slow Learner
                                    • Dec 2010
                                    • 7870

                                    #18
                                    Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                                    Originally posted by Razroid

                                    what do you mean by changing the cables around? O.o

                                    ?
                                    There are two white sockets on the power supply that the lamps plug into.

                                    Take the plugs out and change them over.

                                    ..................................................

                                    You do not need to take the bulbs out of your broken part
                                    just plug them in whilst still in the old panel
                                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                    • Razroid
                                      Member
                                      • Jul 2014
                                      • 27
                                      • Singapore

                                      #19
                                      Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                                      Originally posted by selldoor
                                      There are two white sockets on the power supply that the lamps plug into.

                                      Take the plugs out and change them over.

                                      ..................................................

                                      You do not need to take the bulbs out of your broken part
                                      just plug them in whilst still in the old panel
                                      what difference does swapping the plugs make?

                                      I already pulled them out, it's just one screw ._.

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                                      • SteveNielsen
                                        Retired Tech
                                        • Jun 2012
                                        • 2327
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Faulty Dell ST2210

                                        Originally posted by Razroid
                                        The placed I linked has the specific ones for this monitor.. also, it's possible to upgrade to led strips? O.o



                                        I don't happen to have a spare cfl lamp lying around :/ I do have an old viewsonic square monitor that has a busted panel but still turns on. Can I pull th e cfl tubes out of it and test the inverter using that?
                                        Yes, you can use the working tubes from the other monitor to test the inverter.

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