KENWOOD KA-701 POWERS ON, NO RELAY CLICK

Collapse
This topic has been answered.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • rccrasher65
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2014
    • 595
    • United States

    #41
    Originally posted by petehall347

    d9 d10 is it ? remove one and use resistor and 2x 9v batteries and volt meter .
    Not exactly sure, just looking at parts list. Never did what you are suggesting. Will need additional instructions. Thanks. I found all parts that were originals, except zener diode.

    Comment

    • rccrasher65
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Mar 2014
      • 595
      • United States

      #42
      Originally posted by CapLeaker
      These XZxxx zeners are a bit weird numbered. For example a XZ051 equals a 5.1V zener. It is NOT a 51V zener.
      So what you are looking at is a XZ100 zener. That makes it a 10V. Check it out like petehall347 said above.
      I did order about 8- 10v zeners, I thought it was a 10v, but wasn't sure.

      Comment

      • rccrasher65
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Mar 2014
        • 595
        • United States

        #43
        Originally posted by petehall347

        d9 d10 is it ? remove one and use resistor and 2x 9v batteries and volt meter .
        Yes, D9-10

        Comment

        • rccrasher65
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Mar 2014
          • 595
          • United States

          #44
          Originally posted by CapLeaker
          These XZxxx zeners are a bit weird numbered. For example a XZ051 equals a 5.1V zener. It is NOT a 51V zener.
          So what you are looking at is a XZ100 zener. That makes it a 10V. Check it out like petehall347 said above.
          Also looking for equivalent to WZ-300, WZ-240, these are zeners, and Diode 1N60. Any suggestions. Trying to find replacements for the plate resistors as well, they are 33ohm, 10% 3W resistors.

          Comment

          • CapLeaker
            Leaking Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 8004
            • Canada

            #45
            Geez... all that is broken? Can't be.
            The 1N60 is a germanium diode. It is still available for sale for example futurelec.com. Also 1N34A, BAT41,1N60P etc.
            WZ series zener diodes are 0.5 Watt type. Again a WZ240 = 24V. WZ300 = 30V.
            As for the plate resistors... I dunno. Are they bad?

            Comment

            • rccrasher65
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Mar 2014
              • 595
              • United States

              #46
              Originally posted by CapLeaker
              Geez... all that is broken? Can't be.
              The 1N60 is a germanium diode. It is still available for sale for example futurelec.com. Also 1N34A, BAT41,1N60P etc.
              WZ series zener diodes are 0.5 Watt type. Again a WZ240 = 24V. WZ300 = 30V.
              As for the plate resistors... I dunno. Are they bad?
              No, not all are bad, but I have two of these amps, mine, and my dad's which we are currently working on.I plan on doing a complete overhaul on both eventually so I'm locating parts for both.My philosophy is If I'm pulling it out to check it, it's getting replaced good or bad. I only work on my stuff, and the parts are not that crazy expensive. Except those output Trans I blew. I do believe some parts are coming today. Thanks again for all your help on this project.

              Comment

              • CapLeaker
                Leaking Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 8004
                • Canada

                #47
                I get the germanium diodes… they can break by just using too much heat. The resistors, I’d leave alone unless they are burnt, open, or out of tolerance. Definitely change all the caps then.

                Comment

                • rccrasher65
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 595
                  • United States

                  #48
                  Originally posted by CapLeaker
                  I get the germanium diodes… they can break by just using too much heat. The resistors, I’d leave alone unless they are burnt, open, or out of tolerance. Definitely change all the caps then.
                  Most of them resistors are dark, I will check each piece, as I go along,I do have enough to replace all components on the the board though. I'm going to replace everything on that side by Trans.Q11 the problem in the first place, before I caused the rest of the damage with my slip.

                  Comment

                  • rccrasher65
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 595
                    • United States

                    #49
                    Well parts came in and, most of the resistors have to be returned, so It will be another week at least before I can get started. I do have the big output transistors so I'm going to start there, then the smaller Trans. Caps will follow. At that point I should have the resistors. I will change everything around Q11, because of the short I caused. I,'LL post pics of each step. Thanks guys, and have a great weekend.

                    Comment

                    • CapLeaker
                      Leaking Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 8004
                      • Canada

                      #50
                      Maybe take on high resolution picture from the boards each from top, it’s kind of hard to follow a board in sections.

                      Comment

                      • rccrasher65
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 595
                        • United States

                        #51
                        Originally posted by CapLeaker
                        Maybe take on high resolution picture from the boards each from top, it’s kind of hard to follow a board in sections.
                        Ok will get that this weekend, and post.Have a great weekend sir.

                        Comment

                        • rccrasher65
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 595
                          • United States

                          #52
                          Starting on Tuesday replacing, some components. I will start with Q11, and do those 4 transistors, then the caps, followed by the 4 big output transistors. I'll post some pics as I go along.

                          Comment

                          • rccrasher65
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 595
                            • United States

                            #53
                            Originally posted by rccrasher65
                            Starting on Tuesday replacing, some components. I will start with Q11, and do those 4 transistors, then the caps, followed by the 4 big output transistors. I'll post some pics as I go along.
                            Started today with some component replacement.I decided to start with the hardest first, those output transistors, 5 1/2hrs for 2. What a PITA, those were, who ever designed this needs a good ass kicking, but they got done with a lot of words not permitted here. Once they are done, tomorrow, I will post some pics. Then onto Q11, Q10, Q9 ect. Caps will follow. Thanks for your patience guys, will keep you posted. Thanks again.

                            Comment

                            • CapLeaker
                              Leaking Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 8004
                              • Canada

                              #54
                              Ha! You not the only one that can swear like @#$&! There are MUCH worse things than an amp! But this is just about a daily thing these days.

                              Comment

                              • rccrasher65
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 595
                                • United States

                                #55
                                Originally posted by CapLeaker
                                Ha! You not the only one that can swear like @#$&! There are MUCH worse things than an amp! But this is just about a daily thing these days.
                                I agree, they are all done and soldered in. I'm going to post some pics, and move on to Q11, Q10, ect. The two output transistors near Q11, were definately blown. The other two tested ok, but all 4 were replaced.

                                Comment

                                • rccrasher65
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Mar 2014
                                  • 595
                                  • United States

                                  #56
                                  Here are some pics, they are all over the place in phone instead of one folder, still learning this pic attachment crap. I'll get better as we go along.
                                  Attached Files

                                  Comment

                                  • CapLeaker
                                    Leaking Member
                                    • Dec 2014
                                    • 8004
                                    • Canada

                                    #57
                                    You are right and change always that transistor pair if you can. Getting along nicely now!

                                    Comment

                                    • rccrasher65
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Mar 2014
                                      • 595
                                      • United States

                                      #58
                                      Just a quick check of resistors in area of Q11, Q9 found res.23 smoked, open, res1 smoked, open.most other look good so far,and testing fine, but will double check them all. My new resistors are same value as on parts list, but are considerably smaller in physical size, will this be a problem.

                                      Comment

                                      • CapLeaker
                                        Leaking Member
                                        • Dec 2014
                                        • 8004
                                        • Canada

                                        #59
                                        you mean R11 and R23. These should have the same wattage rating (size) than the old ones. I think they should be a standard 1/4w resistor. R11 should be a 3.5kohm and R23 should be 82ohm.
                                        If you put a smaller wattage rated resistor in, it may not be able to handle the current and go "poof" or overheat.

                                        Comment

                                        • rccrasher65
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Mar 2014
                                          • 595
                                          • United States

                                          #60
                                          Originally posted by CapLeaker
                                          you mean R11 and R23. These should have the same wattage rating (size) than the old ones. I think they should be a standard 1/4w resistor. R11 should be a 3.5kohm and R23 should be 82ohm.
                                          If you put a smaller wattage rated resistor in, it may not be able to handle the current and go "poof" or overheat.
                                          No,you didn't understand me when I said smaller size, The values are all the same, Meaning, res 23 is 82 ohm. 5% 1/4 W. .My new resistor has same exact value, but is physically smaller in size. I just noticed that there are 2 versions of this amp.we are working on the X09-1320-10 A/2, J25-1616-12 A/2, .My other KA-701 has the X09-1320-10 A/2, J25-1056-02 A/2..There is no R11 on the board we are working on, it's even marked on board R1, same with parts list for power amp. There is no R11, just R-1-4, R-5,6. R-19-22 a d so on.

                                          Comment

                                          Related Topics

                                          Collapse

                                          • jm1234
                                            9V relay temperature 40C
                                            by jm1234
                                            Hi, I'm seeing one 9V relay having temperature 40C on its 9V (primary) side. Does that seem right? I switched 2 relays on that board and the temperature was the same (on the same position), so I'm sure it's not a faulty relay. I measured voltage on that relay and it was 9.5V DC, so that looks good. I don't see any other relay on that board having that kind of temperature and they have 9V on them too.
                                            I thought maybe the transistor that is switching this relay keeps switching on/off, so I also checked for AC and there was almost none: 0.3V using mV range. No steady frequency was shown, but...
                                            05-09-2024, 03:03 AM
                                          • edugimeno
                                            Biomass Boiler not driving cleaner motor relay. ENERTRES BIOMASA BI-650
                                            by edugimeno
                                            Hi everyone!
                                            I have this board that suddenly stopped supplying power to an output that drives an interchanger cleaner motor.
                                            I checked while the board was in place with all wires attached and there's no AC voltage on the corresponding plug X5
                                            This X5 is driven by fuse F8 (tested OK) which comes from the second orange relay
                                            To make sure there are no charcoaled contacts inside the relay, I got a 24VDC power supply and got it ready to manually power up the coil side of these relays.
                                            I respected the polarity, positive to cathode of protecting diode
                                            So provided all...
                                            04-18-2024, 01:15 PM
                                          • sam_sam_sam
                                            Mitsubishi CNC switching power supply board dead / relay board bad diode failure
                                            by sam_sam_sam
                                            I was working on this CNC machine today found no keyboard functioning no control relay powering on
                                            The screen powered on and was giving an operation error but the manual was not very clear about what the error exactly was but with a little bit of troubleshooting and finding out that the control relays not powering on and no keyboard functions we narrowed down to this one switching power supply which of course does not have any indicator LED light they are on the keyboard interface/relay controller board

                                            Found shorted diodes on main controller relays there are 3 of them that...
                                            01-07-2023, 05:43 PM
                                          • DXseekerMO
                                            Backlight strip quality, Amazon vs Ebay vs ShopJimmy. Is there really a difference?
                                            by DXseekerMO
                                            Hello everyone!

                                            Recently I've noticed that some ShopJimmy backlight strips don't have double-sided tape installed upon them when an application calls for it, and I must purchase the tape separately. In a recent chat conversation with a customer service agent I told them if this tape wasn't applied when it was called for I would begin to consider ordering my backlight strips elsewhere. It looks like this time may have come.

                                            I recently got a TCL 65S4 with bad backlights. After looking at the SJ listing here: https://www.shopjimmy.com/tcl-jl-d65...365as-m-led-ba...
                                            Yes
                                            0%
                                            1
                                            All backlight strips are the same quality
                                            0%
                                            1
                                            No
                                            0%
                                            0
                                            12-16-2021, 03:58 PM
                                          • malogro
                                            Acer Nitro 5 AN515-55-55M1 [GH51G mb] powers on, no vcc_core
                                            by malogro
                                            Hello all,

                                            I'm stumped on this guy, so wanted to see if anyone has any further ideas:

                                            Intro:

                                            This is an Acer Nitro 5 AN515-55-55M1 with unknown prior history (bought "as-is" on eBay). It charges the battery and powers on from both AC adapter and battery, so I think this rules out main power issues.

                                            Upon attempt to boot, it will "reboot" (meaning powers down and then powers on again) only once, and then stays stuck in a status of lights on / no post / no monitor. Powering on with fn+esc maxes out the fans on first boot attempt,...
                                            04-14-2023, 04:44 PM
                                          • Loading...
                                          • No more items.
                                          Working...