Suitable replacment for this big fella?

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  • delaware74b
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2009
    • 628
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

    Noise from the motor itself isn't good. I bet you have a weak spot in the windings' insulation and it's going to ground. Unless it's 10 hp or higher, it's not worth having the windings replaced. 10-hp and smaller are usually considered disposable except for bearings or the centrifugal switch.
    Stupidity should be a crime, especially for drivers. I have NO patience for them.

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    • Toasty
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jul 2007
      • 4171

      #22
      Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

      From what I understand that he is saying, it's tripping the thermal breaker on the motor. I'd expect, with a winding going to ground, for it to trip the breaker in the mains panel. That is, provided the unit is wired correctly to begin with...
      veritas odium parit

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      • Krankshaft
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2007
        • 2328
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

        Unless you're dealing with a cap issue, bearing issue, or centrifugal switch issue these no name probably Chinese motors aren't worth servicing.

        At least it's a belt drive compressor so it should be relatively easy to replace.
        Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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        • Toasty
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jul 2007
          • 4171

          #24
          Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

          Any word? Luck? Smoke & fire?
          veritas odium parit

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          • c_hegge
            Badcaps Legend
            • Sep 2009
            • 5219
            • Australia

            #25
            Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

            I've given up. It's actually my dad's compressor. He's thinking about replacing it. It's several years old now.
            I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

            No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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            • PCBONEZ
              Grumpy Old Fart
              • Aug 2005
              • 10661
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

              Late to the party but I already found these.

              http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190418553116

              http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=370383139333

              http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=310224383552

              .
              Had to replace that on my big old Craftsman compressor last year.
              That compressor puts out 10-11cfm @90psi [I used to sand-blast cars] so replacing it wouldn't be cheap.
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              • Toasty
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jul 2007
                • 4171

                #27
                Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

                Same symptoms?
                veritas odium parit

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                • dood
                  Deputy dood
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 2462
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

                  c_hegge- I had similar issues with my furnace motor. There were dead spots on the armature. Replaced motor, and life was good. If you carefully give it a spin when it's trying to start, will it run up to full speed? My furnace would get stopped in a dead spot, but start right up as soon as I gave it a spin. I had the advantage of not having a start cap to muddle the mix.
                  Ludicrous gibs!

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                  • PCBONEZ
                    Grumpy Old Fart
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10661
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

                    Originally posted by Toasty
                    Same symptoms?
                    Pretty much but mine didn't work fine 5% of the time.
                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
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                    • styxbound
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 91

                      #30
                      Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

                      The bearings good in this thing?

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                      • c_hegge
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5219
                        • Australia

                        #31
                        Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

                        Originally posted by dood
                        ...If you carefully give it a spin when it's trying to start, will it run up to full speed? ...
                        If you turn it while it tries to start, it spins up and runs for about 30 secs before tripping the breaker. During the 30 secs that it runs for, you can hear what sounds like arcing inside it.
                        I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                        No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                        • digge
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 296

                          #32
                          Re: Suitable replacment for this big fella?

                          Measure restistance on each coil (might be the wrong english word for it). Also measure between each coil and ground. You probably have some sort of short if you hear arcing. However fixing that is quite a bit of work, if there is a "slight" short.

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