Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

[Hellfiya]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

You may want to put some UV curable solder mask over that area when the connections are repaired. I usually use it on my iPhone board repairs when i'm running micro jumpers(it keeps everything in place and prevents shorts) but it may work well in this application as well.

[capwizard]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

Yes, Silver Conductive Glue works.

Pic2 ; It has a short, no problem use needle take out.

Pic 3,4 : ...Works, but TAB IC already damaged................................ Only needs 1/4 drop glue to finish the job so buy the best quality Silver Conductive Glue.

Hope! Someone will find out which Silver Conductive Glue is best for our application. My glue looks never will get harden.

[capwizard]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

A fibre glass pencil, Scratch Brush, I never heard that in my life. Thank you for let me know it is exist.

I always use a razor blade to scratch the PCB which let me feel awkward and dangerous(will need more super glue) and Diamond bit Dremel is hard to control.

The fiberglass brush does a good job at removing coats and cleaning the surface of the material you are working on. I use it to clean PCB tracks prior soldering, it just works great.

[diif]

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That was A marvelous job, OK Your next mission is to fix the TAB attach to the LCD glass screen super fine copper traces.

One question Please, Who broke that flex TAB copper traces at first place?

I did ,trying to avoid the razor sharp edge of the back panel.

I need to find a broken monitor but I accept your mission challenge.
Soldering to the board is easy, I removed the gold with a fibre glass pencil, tinned the tracks and soldered the same 0.15mm wire I used on the plasma.

[capwizard]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

That was A marvelous job, OK Your next mission is to fix the TAB attach to the LCD glass screen super fine copper traces...................

One question Please, Who broke that flex TAB copper traces at first place?

[diif]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

I think you're wasting your time with cheap silver glue.
Sand back the flex until it reveals the copper, tin the traces then solder fine wires to it.
Like I did in this thread. https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=59062

[capwizard]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

diif ; You're right, it took 2 weeks came from China. I can't see any silver inside of it and the color look like soil. If no work I will return it. (Amazon)

So, I reordered this ReFaXi 0.2ML Silver Conductive Glue. pic3

[capwizard]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

One genie tried to fixed this TAB. He folded the edge of the TAB and soldered it. But, My situation is completely different from his....

[llonen]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

Been a few days since I have been able to get back to this thread, a lot of repairs came through, anyways I have spent quite some time using a microscope and scrap tab connectors, as suspected the tab substrate is substantially thicker one side with a thinner layer on other side. The way I have seen most tab on connectors configured is thin side down with the exposed copper traces bonded to the pcb or the glass panel.

While I have carried out flexi pcb repairs with unrelated electronics these had a wider pitch and tracks. With reference to tab connectors though I did find repeatable results could be obtained from the thinner side of the material with some distortion to the flexi pcb substrate however I had little or no success working from the side you would have to access on an assembled panel. If that makes sense.

I a not sure I would consider this a permanent lasting repair either as the soldering process badly distorts the flexi pcb material which is largely not intended for this kind of process.

[jiroy]

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Capwizard dude .. Why don't you visit a car's electrician , the one who usually repair the heating shields on your glass car .. He might give you what you need

[cpt.charlie]

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The 3M conductive adhesive 9703 is doubleback tape that has conductive strips going one way. It is not paint

Sorry, my message was for srhofmann about the rear window reair kit, but you posted while i was writing the message.

[capwizard]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

If conductive strips has the same space with the LCD screen TAB, then this is easy as 123 just cut a piece of 3M conductive adhesive 9703 tape and TAPE on IT.

[pudgi300]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

The 3M conductive adhesive 9703 is doubleback tape that has conductive strips going one way. It is not paint

[cpt.charlie]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

That's basically conductive paint, keep in mind that there are different qualities.

[pudgi300]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

The repair you are trying to do is very tough. I also have microscope to do repairs. I have seen damage to jumpers from water that cannot be repaired because the jumper got burnt. Sometimes when the jumper is in good shape you can use:
3M conductive adhesive 970312

I bought some a few years back on ebay. It is a doubleback tape that has little conductive strains in one direction only (everything in the intrack direction).
It is expensive so the guy sells it in smaller pieces.

[capwizard]

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you're A genie, I never thought about that, a rear window repair kit, Defroster Repair kit?
http://www.frostfighter.com/frost-fi...r-comments.htm

ebay : Auto Car Truck Defroster Tab or Grid Repair enough to do 10 or more repairs US $52.95 More expensive!

[srhofmann]

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Just hit the website. The replacement for 16045 is 16062 which in small quantities is 45 bucks and flexible. The epoxy that you said was 276 isn't flexible.

As an alternative you could try a rear window repair kit. I would try it first on some plastic tape and see if it's flexible and stays conductive.

[capwizard]

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Oh Oor I did not pay attention to it, i'm in a rush.

If you don't mind the watery consistency and the fact that you may not get all that you paid for, go for it.,Although it is very conductive, there are two problems with this particular product
1. It's not very viscous compared with similar products purchased elsewhere. It makes it very difficult not to short out pins on SMD devices.
It's more of a paint than a paste.
2. All the syringes had significant amounts of material already squirted out into the needle covers - see attached picture.
You won't be getting the usable amount that you thought you paid for. They are shipped in a bag, rather than a box, so I assume that the plungers get depressed during shipping and the material squirts out.
I sent a message to the vendor about this but they never replied..

Didn't Work At All:
Its a great idea, but I let it dry for over 24 hours and it never hardened. It comes in nice syringes with additional tips, but they weren't need since the "glue" never hardened, so I could use it over and over if I wanted......

[diif]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

Did you read the comments or look at the shipping times ? It looks like it's coming from China.

Conductive epoxy doesn't have to be that expensive.

[capwizard]

Re: Help! need to solder the wire to the TAB!

No time to built it myself. Customer is waiting for his TV. So, I ordered this from Amazon to try it. Will let you guys know the result.

5 pieces 0.3ML Silver Conductive Wire Glue Paste For Electronics Repair Applications
https://www.amazon.com/pieces-Silver.../dp/B00FEFTHK0