GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found.

**PCBONEZ** · 09-19-2007, 08:18 AM

I dunno if this has been found yet.

The old link in...
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=388
.... is a dead one.

New home page:
http://home.so-net.net.tw/gsccap/NEW/e-index.htm

Note: "GSC cap" in the URL and the site is for "Evercon".

If you read the "History" page...
http://home.so-net.net.tw/gsccap/NEW...%20history.htm
It flat says they're the mfr for SAMWHA since 2003 and SamYoung since 2004.

Wonder who else they've been re-labeling for... ?

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**gonzo0815** · 09-19-2007, 09:06 AM

Well, this would explain why i have seen a lot of failed SamYong and Samwha caps in many appliances like TFT, DVD, Sat. etc.
But what the heck is franchise in cap production? does this mean they got the whole detailed process how to make caps or does this mean, they could label their caps with the franchise partners name?

Any way, good that i have not used those cheap Samwha crap in my repairs, unlike most TV techs do here.

**PCBONEZ** · 09-19-2007, 09:30 AM

I 'think' what they mean is that Evercon (formerly GSC) is the actual manufacturer for the other labels.

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**linuxguru** · 09-19-2007, 10:37 AM

Scary - GSC/Evercon being the OEM for Samyoung. I thought that Samyoung was moderately reliable, at least for non-critical applications - need to rethink that now.

**willawake** · 09-19-2007, 10:56 AM

I dont think there is enough information there to say that. It says they have the "franchise" which can mean that they have a special distribution agreement.

Of course I would not be surprised if they were doing manufacturing for these companies also but it doesnt say that on that specific page.

**PCBONEZ** · 09-19-2007, 12:54 PM

Might be but, as both companies have cap factories what makes more sense to me is that some series or type caps go one way and other types or series' go the other.
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If they do that then they don't have to change production mode (switch product) as often in the factories and that will increase their productivity.
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That's about the only major 2-way advantage I can see to these two teaming up.
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But I can't see everything.....

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**Newbie2** · 09-20-2007, 02:04 PM

2001 - "Success to develop LE series product which is the same step with Rubycon MBZ series to meet P4 motherboard request and pass the ISO-9001-2000 certificate."

WTF? Evercon caps are not comparable at all to the trusted Rubycon MBZ cap. :LOL:

Evercon is not successful in any way with their LE series caps. I had one of their high-end ME series caps (-40 to 125 degrees Celsius rated caps) fail on a XFX video card before.

Older SAMYOUNG products are reliable for probably non-critical applications, though teaming up with Evercon is not a good idea.

**PCBONEZ** · 09-21-2007, 03:33 PM

Yeah I know...

It also shows how worthless ISO certificates are in determining the quality of the companies end product.

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**PeteS in CA** · 09-21-2007, 04:13 PM

ISO 9000 looks at the documentation and consistency of your processes rather than effectiveness. So if your troubleshooting process is to sacrifice chickens, document what kind of chicken, the age and sex, the kind of knife to use, where to make the incisions, what to look at and how to interpret it.

**PCBONEZ** · 09-21-2007, 05:04 PM

Exactly.

ISO is about business practices not the quality of the product.

Yet businesses 'harp' on their ISO Cert as proof of the quality of their product in their ads.

It's all a load of BS.

One could get an ISO Cert to sell spit as bottled water as long as the 'process' was consistent and well documented.

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**Big Pope** · 09-23-2007, 10:22 PM

I captured their homepage's flash banner headline, we can see Lelon polymer OCRZ, i am surprise there is any relative with Lelon..... Samyoung is to expect, i know.

Rob · 06-03-2008, 07:15 PM

Wow, I have a Denon 7.1 Channel home theatre surround receiver that has ALL Sam Young Caps. I did get the 3 year replacement plan.

09-19-2007, 08:18 AM	#1
PCBONEZ Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: Phoenix, AZ My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120V 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 10,630	GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. I dunno if this has been found yet. The old link in... http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=388 .... is a dead one. New home page: http://home.so-net.net.tw/gsccap/NEW/e-index.htm Note: "GSC cap" in the URL and the site is for "Evercon". If you read the "History" page... http://home.so-net.net.tw/gsccap/NEW...%20history.htm It flat says they're the mfr for SAMWHA since 2003 and SamYoung since 2004. Wonder who else they've been re-labeling for... ? . __________________ Mann-Made Global Warming. - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate. - Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr Seuss - You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook. -

09-19-2007, 09:06 AM	#2
gonzo0815 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 City & State: Germany Posts: 1,595	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. Well, this would explain why i have seen a lot of failed SamYong and Samwha caps in many appliances like TFT, DVD, Sat. etc. But what the heck is franchise in cap production? does this mean they got the whole detailed process how to make caps or does this mean, they could label their caps with the franchise partners name? Any way, good that i have not used those cheap Samwha crap in my repairs, unlike most TV techs do here.

09-19-2007, 09:30 AM	#3
PCBONEZ Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: Phoenix, AZ My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120V 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 10,630	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. I 'think' what they mean is that Evercon (formerly GSC) is the actual manufacturer for the other labels. .

09-19-2007, 10:37 AM	#4
linuxguru Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,292	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. Scary - GSC/Evercon being the OEM for Samyoung. I thought that Samyoung was moderately reliable, at least for non-critical applications - need to rethink that now.

09-19-2007, 10:56 AM	#5
willawake Super Modulator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: Αθήνα Posts: 8,006	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. I dont think there is enough information there to say that. It says they have the "franchise" which can mean that they have a special distribution agreement. Of course I would not be surprised if they were doing manufacturing for these companies also but it doesnt say that on that specific page. __________________ capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

09-19-2007, 12:54 PM	#6
PCBONEZ Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: Phoenix, AZ My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120V 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 10,630	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. Might be but, as both companies have cap factories what makes more sense to me is that some series or type caps go one way and other types or series' go the other. - If they do that then they don't have to change production mode (switch product) as often in the factories and that will increase their productivity. - That's about the only major 2-way advantage I can see to these two teaming up. - But I can't see everything..... .

09-20-2007, 02:04 PM	#7
Newbie2 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 City & State: Halifax, NS My Country: Canada Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Complete Noob! Posts: 862	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. 2001 - "Success to develop LE series product which is the same step with Rubycon MBZ series to meet P4 motherboard request and pass the ISO-9001-2000 certificate." WTF? Evercon caps are not comparable at all to the trusted Rubycon MBZ cap. :LOL: Evercon is not successful in any way with their LE series caps. I had one of their high-end ME series caps (-40 to 125 degrees Celsius rated caps) fail on a XFX video card before. Older SAMYOUNG products are reliable for probably non-critical applications, though teaming up with Evercon is not a good idea. __________________ My gaming PC: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition 3.3GHz Six-Core CPU (Socket AM3) ASUS M4A77TD AMD 770 AM3 Motherboard PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5 PCI-Express x16 3.0 Graphics Card G.SKILL Value Series 16GB DDR3-1333 RAM (4x4GB dual channel) TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD (x2) WD Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channel PCI sound card Antec HCG-750M 750W ATX12V v2.32 80 PLUS BRONZE Power Supply Antec Three Hundred Mid-Tower Case Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Last edited by Newbie2; 09-20-2007 at 02:07 PM..

09-21-2007, 03:33 PM	#8
PCBONEZ Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: Phoenix, AZ My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120V 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 10,630	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. Yeah I know... It also shows how worthless ISO certificates are in determining the quality of the companies end product. .

09-21-2007, 04:13 PM	#9
PeteS in CA Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: San Jose, CA My Country: USA, Unsure of Planet Line Voltage: 120VAC, 60Hz & 115VAC, 400Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 2,924	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. ISO 9000 looks at the documentation and consistency of your processes rather than effectiveness. So if your troubleshooting process is to sacrifice chickens, document what kind of chicken, the age and sex, the kind of knife to use, where to make the incisions, what to look at and how to interpret it. __________________ PeteS in CA Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells. Where might is right There is no right. - Sophocles in "Antigone" ************************** All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring ************************** To kill personal responsibility, initiative or success, punish it by taxing it. To encourage irresponsibility, improvidence, dependence and failure, reward it by subsidizing it.

09-21-2007, 05:04 PM	#10
PCBONEZ Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: Phoenix, AZ My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120V 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 10,630	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. Exactly. ISO is about business practices not the quality of the product. Yet businesses 'harp' on their ISO Cert as proof of the quality of their product in their ads. It's all a load of BS. One could get an ISO Cert to sell spit as bottled water as long as the 'process' was consistent and well documented. .

06-03-2008, 07:15 PM	#12
Rob Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 47	Re: GSC - Evercon - SAMWHA - SamYoung - Mfr site found. Wow, I have a Denon 7.1 Channel home theatre surround receiver that has ALL Sam Young Caps. I did get the 3 year replacement plan.

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