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  • MixMasta
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 142
    • USA

    #1

    Counterfeit Samxons



    Imitation is the highest form of flattery...
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  • Topcat
    The Boss Stooge
    • Oct 2003
    • 16956
    • United States

    #2
    Re: Counterfeit Samxons

    wow......

    Big Pope? Any further info on this?
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    • PeteS in CA
      Badcaps Legend
      • Aug 2005
      • 3581
      • USA, Unsure of Planet

      #3
      Re: Counterfeit Samxons

      Well, as the saying goes, counterfeiters don't usually counterfeit $3 bills. Hopefully this means that Samxon products are good enough to be worth counterfeiting.
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      • willawake
        Super Modulator
        • Nov 2003
        • 8457
        • Greece

        #4
        Re: Counterfeit Samxons

        Hopefully this means that Samxon products are good enough to be worth counterfeiting.
        thats true but anyway if you are sourcing from big pope or topcat then its coming direct from the samxon factory so no worry.
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        • Big Pope
          Approved Vendor
          • Dec 2005
          • 426

          #5
          Re: Counterfeit Samxons

          Originally posted by Topcat
          wow......

          Big Pope? Any further info on this?
          Wow, i know this matter from here only today. I never heard this matter from them or market in previous period. I guess Samxon's brand is growing up now, it is a good news.

          All guys, don't worry. My Samxon caps are sourced from Man Yue Electronics Co., Ltd. DIRECTLY. There is absolutely no fake caps if anyone buy the Samxon caps from me.
          My SAMXON Capacitors Database HERE!!

          X-CON is a new brand for SAMXON's Polymer Capacitors.

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          • Topcat
            The Boss Stooge
            • Oct 2003
            • 16956
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Counterfeit Samxons

            Originally posted by Big Pope
            Wow, i know this matter from here only today. I never heard this matter from them or market in previous period. I guess Samxon's brand is growing up now, it is a good news.

            All guys, don't worry. My Samxon caps are sourced from Man Yue Electronics Co., Ltd. DIRECTLY. There is absolutely no fake caps if anyone buy the Samxon caps from me.
            Thank you for clearing that up Joe. I get my Samxon caps from Big Pope as well, and I can assure you they are genuine.
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            • MD Willington
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Sep 2004
              • 702

              #7
              Re: Counterfeit Samxons

              Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
              Ya'll think us folk from the country's real funny-like, dontcha?

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              • tazwegion
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jun 2006
                • 444
                • Australia

                #8
                Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                Instead of all the time these fraudsters spend copying other products, they should invest in R&D and offer something decent themselves
                Viva LA Retro!

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                • Big Pope
                  Approved Vendor
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 426

                  #9
                  Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                  Update! There is Notice Of Discovery Of Counterfeit Samxon Products (II) released.

                  http://www.samxon.com/PDF/pressreleasePDF_53.pdf
                  Attached Files
                  My SAMXON Capacitors Database HERE!!

                  X-CON is a new brand for SAMXON's Polymer Capacitors.

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                  • bgavin
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1355

                    #10
                    Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                    There is some guy from China selling Panasonic "FL" caps. I don't find any reference to series FL in the literature.

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                    • kc8adu
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 8832
                      • U.S.A!

                      #11
                      Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                      could that be why we are seeing bad gl and gd in lcd's?

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                      • Scenic
                        o.O
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2642
                        • Germany

                        #12
                        Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                        hmm... i found Panasonic FL series caps on one of my mainboards...

                        ECS 915P-A Rev. 1.2 (intel 915 chipset, LGA775)

                        http://upload.wozzap.de/up/FL1.jpg
                        http://upload.wozzap.de/up/FL2.jpg

                        they look genuine to me... even the T-vent. and they work fine
                        weird that they aren't mentioned anywhere (like bgavin said) o.O

                        edit: they were on the board when i got it. a mix of pannys for the whole VRM area and the rest is full of small OST RLS Series..
                        Last edited by Scenic; 04-17-2008, 03:47 AM.

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                        • Big Pope
                          Approved Vendor
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 426

                          #13
                          Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                          Originally posted by kc8adu
                          could that be why we are seeing bad gl and gd in lcd's?
                          There is no histroy in Samxon procuts catalogues, so i can't find GL data sheet.

                          GD or GF?
                          My SAMXON Capacitors Database HERE!!

                          X-CON is a new brand for SAMXON's Polymer Capacitors.

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                          • willawake
                            Super Modulator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 8457
                            • Greece

                            #14
                            Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                            Originally posted by Scenic
                            hmm... i found Panasonic FL series caps on one of my mainboards...
                            FL FJ FF are genuine series but only made in malaysia
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                            • kc8adu
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8832
                              • U.S.A!

                              #15
                              Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                              i have seen a ton of gl bad.
                              they are brown.
                              the other ones are gf.

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                              • Big Pope
                                Approved Vendor
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 426

                                #16
                                Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                                Originally posted by kc8adu
                                i have seen a ton of gl bad.
                                they are brown.
                                the other ones are gf.
                                Any photos of GL? I will ask this matter from the factory directly.
                                My SAMXON Capacitors Database HERE!!

                                X-CON is a new brand for SAMXON's Polymer Capacitors.

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                                • bgavin
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Jan 2007
                                  • 1355

                                  #17
                                  Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                                  I acquired an MSI board, MS-7210 v3.0, 945GM2H-F.

                                  This board is populated entirely with Panasonc FJ and FL.

                                  Q1: does anybody have a data sheet for FL?

                                  Q2: should these be recapped with MCZ?

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                                  • kc8adu
                                    Super Moderator
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 8832
                                    • U.S.A!

                                    #18
                                    Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                                    Originally posted by bgavin
                                    I acquired an MSI board, MS-7210 v3.0, 945GM2H-F.

                                    This board is populated entirely with Panasonc FJ and FL.

                                    Q1: does anybody have a data sheet for FL?

                                    Q2: should these be recapped with MCZ?
                                    why???
                                    i have never seen fj or fl bad.
                                    pics?

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                                    • bgavin
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jan 2007
                                      • 1355

                                      #19
                                      Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                                      That is what I wanted to find out. The ESR numbers are not particularly low for the ones I can identify. I don't have any datasheet for FL, so no clue as to what the ESR values are.

                                      I will put up some photos.

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                                      • Big Pope
                                        Approved Vendor
                                        • Dec 2005
                                        • 426

                                        #20
                                        Re: Counterfeit Samxons

                                        Originally posted by kc8adu
                                        why???
                                        i have never seen fj or fl bad.
                                        pics?
                                        I have seen FJ failed in Asus and MSI Socket 939 baords last year, just a few.

                                        I will keep my eye, we see.
                                        My SAMXON Capacitors Database HERE!!

                                        X-CON is a new brand for SAMXON's Polymer Capacitors.

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