My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

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  • ratdude747
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    • Nov 2008
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    #21
    Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

    i guess a new word was named after me.
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    • Topcat
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      • Oct 2003
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      #22
      Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

      I just replaced the burnt 8-pin power connector. I had to get creative, as of the couple hundred junk boards I have here, not a damn one of them had an 8-pin connector, they were all 4-pin.

      ....So.... I plugged the 8-pin PSU plug into various places on a 24 pin connector. Low and behold, the center 8 pins are the same block config. The locking tab also lines up. I desoldered a 24 pin connector from a trashed Dell XPS board and then used a sharp new exacto knife and cut away all but the 8 pin area I needed. A sharp exacto knife cuts the plastic like a hot knife through butter, the plastic is very soft on those connectors. 10 minutes later, I had it installed in the board, looks like it was born there.....I've always been good at widdling though.... I'll post some pics of it soon.

      IO shield is also on the way. I scored some amazing deals on a bunch of 2gb DDR1 PC3200 reg/ECC DIMM's as well, so it'll have 16gb RAM, which is the max it was rated for. Reg/ECC pc3200 DDR1 is getting harder to find, and its getting miserably expensive, was nice to find these and cheap!
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      • kc8adu
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        • Nov 2003
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        #23
        Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

        taking notes...
        i looked at a ton of scrap and could not find one here for you either.
        good find on the xacto mod!

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        • Topcat
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          #24
          Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

          ^
          I made that one up myself.....hahaha... I was grinding for ideas, and just thought why not try and fit the 8 pin plug into the 24 pin and see where it fits (if anywhere) and where it doesn't...and then see what I could do about it...

          A 20-pin connector will work in desperation, but its offset to the left, and you will lose the locking tab, as it doesn't line up. A 24 pin connector was perfect, and something I've got plenty of. When looking at the pic below, make sure you cut on the waste side of the wall, you want to keep the wall intact for strength. Here's how I did it and where I cut (excuse the crudity of this drawing, I never claimed to be Rembrandt):



          I used an Exacto knife with a fresh blade. I think a fresh razor blade would also work. The plastic is very soft, I don't think a dremel would work well for this, it would just melt the plastic and make a mess.

          The 8-pin plug connects perfectly, locks in, and now this left for dead board is as good as new.

          Here's a few more pics of this finished mod:









          Next time everyone sees this board, it'll be mounted up in a nice new supermicro case.
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          • dood
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            • Mar 2004
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            #25
            Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

            Sweet shit, man! Only DDR 1 though? But will it make a difference opposed to DDR2 or 3?
            Ludicrous gibs!

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            • Topcat
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              #26
              Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

              ^
              Compared to DDR2, not really, its the same speed (PC3200, 400MHz x 2 @ dual channel). DDR3 on the other hand, yes. DDR3 interleaves between 3 banks, not 2 like DDR2 or dual channel DDR1. My new home system is DDR3, and man that stuff is expensive....buying RAM in pairs sucks, but buying it in 3's sucks even more.
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              • Colt45ws
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                #27
                Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                Its only tri-channel if you get the 1366 boards though even that will run dual channel if you just want to get 2 or 4. The 1156 and AM3 stuff is still running it in dual channel only, I think. Does kinda suck though because I have 6GB now and if I wanted to step up and keep triple channel I would have to jump to 9 or 12 GB.

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                • Topcat
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                  #28
                  Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                  My SM board is 1066 and 1333 RAM clock (lga1366), depending on which processors you go with. It does require the RAM to be installed in 3's to get full performance from it, hence the purpose of 3 channel DDR3, it interleaves 3 banks. The board will not run unless each processor has 1 dimm in each bank. Each processor has 6 DIMM slots, 3 banks containing 2 slots per bank. Mine is running 24gb (6x 4gb sticks).
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                  • acstech
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                    #29
                    Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                    That's a nice looking connector you made there!

                    I've also used a bandsaw with a very thin blade to cut apart connectors like that. You have to be very careful though. It's useful on those AcBel PSU's that come with the 8 pin connector. Some motherboards don't have room for it next to their 4 pin connector.
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                    • AudioCraZ
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                      #30
                      Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                      Awesome work. Looks damn good.

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                      • ratdude747
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                        #31
                        Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                        939=DDR it's a hypertransport thing, 939 cpu's have support for ddr only.

                        it's still good, my 939 board maxed out at 4gb ddr 3200, and combined with a dual core, does great. kicks the snot out of the p4 prescott 630 w/ 2gb ddr2... 30fps vs 130fps... AMD won that war...
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                        • Topcat
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                          Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                          ^
                          These are 940 Opterons, but basically the same chip as a 64-bit 939, just with SMP support for multiple chips (939's were all single socket). I've always been a fan of them, and even by today's standards they kick ass.....which is the main reason I spent so much time on such an old board. I remember looking at this exact setup back in 06 or so, just drooling and wishing I could even begin to afford to build it back then from new parts (would have cost around 5k). There's nothing this machine won't do that I'd ask of it, I'm not a hardcore gamer. I don't need a bazillion frames per second in whatever the latest first-person shooter game is now.... The games I actually play will run smooth as silk on a P3 1GHz with 512mb RAM......lol

                          I've always wanted a dual dualcore Opteron system, and now I've got one. I built one for my lady out of an Asus K8N-DL. She got a pair of 3GHz single core 856 Opterons, 6gb RAM, with one of my glorious EVGA 7600GT poly-modded video cards...and hers whipped ass. The K8N-DL is a smaller board than the server version of it, it'll fit in a regular ATX case.

                          The only part of this project that cost a lot was the case (was $375 shipped), but came with the 865W PSU and SAS backplane, so bang for buck, it wasn't really that bad. That's the disadvantage of an eATX board, not many cases out there can take one.....but the way I see it is this, the case will be around for a LONG time. If this system dies or I want to upgrade, I can reuse it until the ATX form factor itself is obsolete, and that won't be for a long time. All the rest of the parts in this system were other people's "trash" and other bargains I ran into. Not taking the case into account, I probably have $250~$300 in this so far. Not a bad price for a quad core system with 16gb of RAM in it, with SLI video cards.....built out of IT-grade components not cheap end-user trash. I still have to buy hard drives, but I still haven't decided which way I'm going yet.
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                          • ratdude747
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                            #33
                            Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                            or you could try ssd drives... fast!

                            probably not, expen$ive...
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                            • Topcat
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                              #34
                              Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                              Originally posted by ratdude747
                              or you could try ssd drives... fast!

                              probably not, expen$ive...
                              Not yet. I'll let them season for a few more years. They're too small, not RAID-friendly, not reliable by my standards, and yes.....way too expensive. A few more years of maturing will yield big price drops, larger capacities, and exponentially higher reliability factors. I'll let everyone else be the lab rats for them and waste their money.... Patience is a virtue, even in the computer world.
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                              • Colt45ws
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                                #35
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                                Yeah I couldnt help myself buy this SSD, lol. I have it backed up weekly though; worst case I have to run on a spare HD for awhile.

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                                • Topcat
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                                  #36
                                  Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                                  Alright, one last little update before it goes in the case (which will probably be over the weekend)... The IO shield came, so I test fitted it. I also tested the RAM just to make sure it was good....Samsung chips, was there really any doubt?!? Always had great luck with Samsung RAM.

                                  Showing all 16gb RAM:


                                  My perfect home made 8-pin power connector:


                                  The RAM itself:


                                  The whole thing:


                                  3ware 8-channel SATA2 RAID with BBU:






                                  IO Shield. I may not even mod it. I won't use the second NIC, so I may just leave the IO shield alone and just disable the second NIC in the BIOS. Leaving it covered doesn't interfere with anything.


                                  Where'd all those come from? One of the bonuses of the RAM, it came with motherboards, CPU's, heatsink/fans, and IO shields. The RAM by itself was worth what I paid for it by far (would have cost me 1600 bucks if I had to buy it new: http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/I...=TS256MDR72V4L ), was nice to get a bunch of extras with it. I'll be reselling the 4 spare boards, CPU's, and so on. They're Tyan K8W (S2885) motherboards with Opteron 250 CPU's.


                                  That's all for now.
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                                  • dood
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                                    #37
                                    Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                                    If only those dual opteron boards had PCIe... I'd be bugging you for one.
                                    Ludicrous gibs!

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                                    • seanc
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                                      #38
                                      Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                                      If you mean the boards in the pile, they look like single CPU boards to be, the top board has the cooler from the bottom board sat on top of it.

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                                      • ratdude747
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                                        #39
                                        Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                                        what about the 2 boards to the left?
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                                        • seanc
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                                          #40
                                          Re: My latest Quadcore......even I need a little help on this one

                                          Yeah, but we can't see all the slots on it, the brown AGP slots are easily visible in the pile of boards.

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