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  • pentium
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2006
    • 2778
    • Canada

    #1

    Cooked PhysX?

    While reinstalling hardware on my system I ran a test to see if my BFG Ageia PhysX card was working and the test kept timing out.
    After reinstalling the driver (yes, the system was detecting the card as present) I pulled the card out and found this:





    Damn.
    Looks like the cheap fan failed and the heat actually deformed part of the fan.
    Did these cards impliment any kind of thermal protection or is it cooked?
    I would put the card back in with a different fan on top but I can't lose the PCI slot next to it and thus I can't test it without things getting messy.
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  • ratdude747
    Black Sheep
    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Cooked PhysX?

    thats the same fan i have. mine never worked right. i bought it as a kit from geeks .com. only difference is mine had a standard case fan connector and a tachometer wire. same fan, same aluminum base.

    that fan would either not start or run very slow. adding lube didnt help a lot. it was a ripoff.

    too bad i lost the hardware to it, i know zerotherm make a badass gpu cooler. mine was purple and came with ram coolers as well. it was big but powerful. so powerful that i bet you could do some serious gpu oc'ing with it.

    as for the card, probably not. a wimpy cooler fried out a radeon 9250 of mine. made by connect3d.com. if it got that hot, then you probably cooked you goose.

    edit: found a pic of my cooler ki- the bad one:



    that look like yours?

    as for the zerotherm, this is it:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835887008

    maybe someone else has it?
    Last edited by ratdude747; 10-23-2009, 12:58 AM.
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    • pentium
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      • Mar 2006
      • 2778
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Cooked PhysX?

      That heatsink is far more flimsy as opposed to the one I have but the fan looks to be the same.
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      • 370forlife
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        • Aug 2008
        • 3112
        • United States

        #4
        Re: Cooked PhysX?

        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118037

        If you want some OC'ing, you get that cooler. Have that on my old 8600gt.


        Have you tried contacting their customer support and asking them if it has thermal protection?

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        • pentium
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          • Mar 2006
          • 2778
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Cooked PhysX?

          Who am I to contact? Ageia was bought out by Nvidia years ago and I don't think Nvidia really cares about the card.
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          • Wizard
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            • Mar 2008
            • 2296

            #6
            Re: Cooked PhysX?

            Is it under warranty? PhysX IP went into Nvidia's drivers and dropped the hardware side. Nvidia bought Ageia to get at PhysX concept/IP, not the hardware.

            If not, junked sorry. This is reasons we don't see much PhysX support in games as the newer video cards and current CPUs (C2D and quads, i5 and i7) are much capable of handling the demands so there was not much need to code PhysX for hardware.

            Cheers, Wizard

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            • 370forlife
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              • Aug 2008
              • 3112
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Cooked PhysX?

              Originally posted by pentium
              Who am I to contact? Ageia was bought out by Nvidia years ago and I don't think Nvidia really cares about the card.
              Try BFG, they have a rep for having good customer support.

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              • Wizard
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                • Mar 2008
                • 2296

                #8
                Re: Cooked PhysX?

                Oh yes, try that with BFG, forgot about that.

                Cheers, Wizard

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                • ratdude747
                  Black Sheep
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17136
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Cooked PhysX?

                  $51 for a gpu cooler? damn, thats way outta budget. i guess the x800xl will keep the stock cooler...

                  btw, i found out you can oc gpu's in linux. ill have to try that sometime.
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                  • acstech
                    GrumpyModerator
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1432
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Cooked PhysX?

                    I don't know what the slot situation is on your motherboard, but you can use a lower end Nvidia graphics card as a PhysX card. When compared to $51 for a cooler, it might not be a bad deal.
                    A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                    • Wizard
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2296

                      #11
                      Re: Cooked PhysX?

                      ratdude747, that good cooler becomes vital when overclocking. Stock coolers on GPUs is minimum specified.

                      Cheers, Wizard

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                      • pentium
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2778
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Cooked PhysX?

                        Originally posted by acstech
                        I don't know what the slot situation is on your motherboard, but you can use a lower end Nvidia graphics card as a PhysX card. When compared to $51 for a cooler, it might not be a bad deal.
                        Unfortunately, with Nvidia's latest drivers that is no longer possible.
                        Should the drivers now detect you are also using an ATI video card in the system, the driver disables the Nvidia card until the ATI card is disabled or removed.
                        The only way to get PhysX support while using an ATI card now is by using an older Ageia PhysX card. This is why when you look for these cards on ebay the prices are still quite high.
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                        • acstech
                          GrumpyModerator
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1432
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Cooked PhysX?

                          You can get around that.

                          http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1456964

                          Also:

                          http://www.ngohq.com/news/16560-patc...s-present.html

                          From that article, your PPU shouldn't even be working when a non-Nvidia graphics chip is present.

                          "In addition, for some incomprehensible reasons, the latest version of PhysX System Software also prevents PPU cards (such as BFG PPU) from working if a Non-Nvidia GPU is present."
                          A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                          • pentium
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2778
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Cooked PhysX?

                            The last time I was trying the card which was about a month and a half ago it was working no problem.
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                            • ratdude747
                              Black Sheep
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 17136
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Cooked PhysX?

                              Originally posted by Wizard
                              ratdude747, that good cooler becomes vital when overclocking. Stock coolers on GPUs is minimum specified.

                              Cheers, Wizard
                              i know. but i dont really oc since i dont have the money for the cooling equipment
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                              • dood
                                Deputy dood
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 2462
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Cooked PhysX?

                                I have one of these - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118117

                                I love it... My GPU stays nice and cool, even overclocked.
                                Ludicrous gibs!

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                                • ratdude747
                                  Black Sheep
                                  • Nov 2008
                                  • 17136
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Cooked PhysX?

                                  thats what im talking. 22 beats 51.
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                                  • 370forlife
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                                    • Aug 2008
                                    • 3112
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Cooked PhysX?

                                    but not in cooling...

                                    43C while running gpu folding client on this 8600gt dosen't lie.

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