Why Lubuntu?

[bigbeark]

Noticed that most of the 2020 OS Survey choose Lubuntu. I use Linux Mint Mate 19.3 64-bit.

I can see Lubuntu is a smaller install, but why is it the flavor of choice for you?

[stj]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

i dont use it.
i wont use any distro that does away with a root account - ubuntu variants are trying to go the way of windows.

[ChaosLegionnaire]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

not only is it smaller install, its smaller memory footprint as well, lower resource usage, lower bloat, faster booting etc. no one likes a bloated os! *looks at windows vista!*

[lti]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

I use it because it's a lightweight distro with a lot of software support (because it's based on Ubuntu). The computer I'm running it on has 4GB of RAM, and Windows will run out of RAM shortly after opening a web browser.

I'm surprised at how slow it boots. There isn't a large difference in boot times between the installed version and the "live" version booting from a flash drive, and the flash drive I used was extremely slow (3.5MB/s continuous write speed).

[retiredcaps]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

not only is it smaller install, its smaller memory footprint as well, lower resource usage, lower bloat, faster booting etc. no one likes a bloated os! *looks at windows vista!*

Even with faster hardware now since I started using lubuntu in 2014, I stick with lubuntu due to the above.

Also with less default software/daemons/services, there is a smaller attack vector.

[retiredcaps]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

I'm surprised at how slow it boots.

Post the results of

systemd-analyze blame
systemd-analyze critical-chain

With a SSD (used 32GB), my lubuntu boots from cold start into a firefox in under 8 seconds.

I would love to get it under 5 seconds with some tweaking.

[TechGeek]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

SSD for boot here...

Heavily loaded Xubuntu 18.04.3 install goes from power button to login screen in about 10 seconds (excluding BIOS password input). 15-30 seconds if the system had a hard shutdown.

[lti]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

Post the results of

systemd-analyze blame
systemd-analyze critical-chain

With a SSD (used 32GB), my lubuntu boots from cold start into a firefox in under 8 seconds.

I would love to get it under 5 seconds with some tweaking.

I think it belongs in a new thread, but here it is.

systemd-analyze blame:

     29.590s apt-daily.service
     20.240s systemd-journal-flush.service
     16.823s ufw.service
     16.093s keyboard-setup.service
     15.706s dev-sda5.device
     11.474s systemd-udevd.service
     6.583s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
     4.358s plymouth-start.service
     3.789s NetworkManager.service
     3.411s systemd-sysctl.service
     2.860s networkd-dispatcher.service
     2.664s udisks2.service
     2.364s accounts-daemon.service
     2.350s ModemManager.service
     2.280s nmbd.service
     1.666s gpu-manager.service
     1.616s smbd.service
     1.453s avahi-daemon.service
     1.268s wpa_supplicant.service
     1.153s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
     1.095s lm-sensors.service
      955ms systemd-modules-load.service
      894ms apt-daily-upgrade.service
      872ms motd-news.service
      784ms packagekit.service
      711ms resetmsmice.service
      703ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
      589ms apparmor.service
      551ms upower.service
      532ms polkit.service
      526ms plymouth-read-write.service
      509ms systemd-journald.service
      487ms grub-common.service
      406ms systemd-random-seed.service
      405ms swapfile.swap
      396ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
      370ms rsyslog.service
      362ms user@1000.service
      311ms systemd-resolved.service
      297ms systemd-rfkill.service
      261ms kmod-static-nodes.service
      259ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
      258ms dev-mqueue.mount
      224ms systemd-logind.service
      165ms lightdm.service
      163ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
      151ms systemd-timesyncd.service
      119ms setvtrgb.service
      110ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
      61ms apport.service
      52ms systemd-remount-fs.service
      45ms alsa-restore.service
      38ms pppd-dns.service
      27ms systemd-update-utmp.service
      17ms kerneloops.service
      16ms hddtemp.service
      12ms ureadahead-stop.service
       8ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
       5ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
       5ms dev-hugepages.mount
       5ms sys-kernel-config.mount
       4ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
       4ms systemd-user-sessions.service
       3ms console-setup.service

systemd-analyze critical-chain:

The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @38.599s
└─multi-user.target @38.599s
 └─smbd.service @36.982s +1.616s
  └─nmbd.service @34.698s +2.280s
   └─network-online.target @34.696s
    └─NetworkManager-wait-online.service @28.113s +6.583s
     └─NetworkManager.service @24.321s +3.789s
      └─dbus.service @24.262s
       └─basic.target @24.259s
        └─paths.target @24.259s
         └─acpid.path @24.259s
          └─sysinit.target @24.238s
           └─systemd-timesyncd.service @24.086s +151ms
            └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @23.915s +110ms
             └─systemd-journal-flush.service @3.673s +20.240s
              └─systemd-journald.service @3.163s +509ms
               └─syslog.socket @3.162s
                └─system.slice @2.886s
                 └─-.slice @2.857s

I don't have an SSD in that computer, so maybe that's normal (the speed difference when reading lots of small files). I don't think that computer is worth upgrading, and having more RAM would remove the only reason I have for using Linux.

[eccerr0r]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

Oh gosh 4GB is not enough memory on a binary distribution? so sad, I really need more cpu/memory... I'm still running Gentoo on a 2GB machine, and it's actually building its updates, rust/firefox and all... takes forever and a half but it's still chugging along.

[retiredcaps]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

I don't have an SSD in that computer, so maybe that's normal (the speed difference when reading lots of small files). I don't think that computer is worth upgrading, and having more RAM would remove the only reason I have for using Linux.

38 seconds for a traditional spinning disk isn't bad depending on the the CPU and hard disk. I think it was about 25 seconds when I had a traditional hard disk on a dual core E8400.

Try these 6 commands to cut down the boot time to under 30 seconds.

sudo systemctl disable smbd.service
sudo systemctl mask smbd.service

sudo systemctl disable nmbd.service
sudo systemctl mask nmbd.service

sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service
sudo systemctl mask NetworkManager-wait-online.service

I also disable the following services/daemons on my Lubuntu setup.

sudo apt purge ppp modemmanager apport bluez whoopsie avahi-daemon

Lubuntu with a browser should run fine with 1GB to 2GB DRAM.

[retiredcaps]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

With a SSD (used 32GB), my lubuntu boots from cold start into a firefox in under 8 seconds.

Got it down to 5.7 seconds with some tweaks. Trying for < 5 now.

[R666]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

Yeah, already said, it's fast, small footprint, less resource hangry, smaller attack surface and quick updates (Debian tends to be slower in publishing newer versions of SW in their repos).
I also find LXQT quite stylish.

[desert-rat]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

I also use Mint . I have used a few other distros, but never tried Limbuto.

[retiredcaps]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

Just downloaded Lubuntu beta 20.04 and installed it on my test machine. Posting this using it.

So far so good.

Lubuntu 20.04, when released in late April will be installed on my main machine.

I will do a complete clean install, reinstall all the apps (only 4 or 5) and reconfigure everything from scratch.

[ivtec]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

Hi guys is Lubuntu 18.04 better than Xubuntu 18.04 or is same thing? to install on Desktop EMachines ET1331G, AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250u Processor, i've tried a few distros but i end up going back to Xubuntu

[ivtec]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

Just downloaded Lubuntu beta 20.04 and installed it on my test machine. Posting this using it.

So far so good.

Lubuntu 20.04, when released in late April will be installed on my main machine.

I will do a complete clean install, reinstall all the apps (only 4 or 5) and reconfigure everything from scratch.

https://www.infoworld.com/article/31...n-xubuntu.html


Do you guys agree with this?;

[retiredcaps]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

Hi guys is Lubuntu 18.04 better than Xubuntu 18.04 or is same thing?

X or L, it really doesn't matter.

I chose L back in 2014, because it used less resources than X. Back in 2014, I was still using P4 and low end dual cores with only 1GB DRAM so I had to be very picky about which OS used the least amount of DRAM.

If you like X, stick with X.

Now that I have faster dual core machines with 4GB DRAM, I still stick to L.

[retiredcaps]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

https://www.infoworld.com/article/31...n-xubuntu.html

Do you guys agree with this?;

That article is 3 years old and much has changed.

LXQT 20.04 is now > 1GB ISO and comes with LibreOffice.

Again, either L or X are excellent choices for older machines. Pick whatever makes you happy.

[ivtec]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

Thanks guys and keep up this great Forum

[Topcat]

Re: Why Lubuntu?

i dont use it.
i wont use any distro that does away with a root account

Besides servers (they all have root accounts), I set Mint up on cheap systems all the time for clients.....mainly to use as web browsers/socialist media/email systems....if I told them it had no root account, they'd stare at me like I had 2 heads. Some systems are better off this way.