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  • kc8adu
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8832
    • U.S.A!

    #1

    another watercooling disaster.

    told the customer the watercooling system he has is a pile of junk.
    he insisted we build a new box with it.after it pissed on his old hardware killing it.
    3 months later we are back with another leaking block.
    hey its on his dime!
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  • willawake
    Super Modulator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8457
    • Greece

    #2
    Re: another watercooling disaster.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P45_(tax))
    Last edited by kc8adu; 07-02-2009, 02:03 PM. Reason: fixed link
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    • kc8adu
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 8832
      • U.S.A!

      #3
      Re: another watercooling disaster.

      its like audiophools.you can tell them why we dont do something or use a brand/type of part but its expensive and looks cool so i want it anyway.
      anyway the idiot tax will be paid via all the repairs this turd will need over time.

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      • Wizard
        Badcaps Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 2296

        #4
        Re: another watercooling disaster.

        Heh!

        Sounds like the water-cooling equipment is shoddy and always clamp all hoses. Very IMPORTANT to have airspace in the tank/tube for thermal expansion.

        For short period of time Apple sold G5 towers with water-cooling stuff and there was problems with it leaking.

        Cheers, Wizard

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        • 370forlife
          Large Marge
          • Aug 2008
          • 3112
          • United States

          #5
          Re: another watercooling disaster.

          If I had a watercooling setup I would mount the motherboard and everything upside down (as in facing the ground, not upright) so if it did leak there would be a greater chance of it just dripping down instead of leaking crap all over the motherboard.

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          • Toasty
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jul 2007
            • 4171

            #6
            Re: another watercooling disaster.

            JetDry in the coolant stops those nasty water spots...
            veritas odium parit

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            • KeriJane
              Mac Enthusiast
              • Sep 2008
              • 681
              • USA

              #7
              Re: another watercooling disaster.

              LOL...

              I came across a watercooling kit once.... it was on sale from $150 down to about $20.

              I looked it over and thought: "This looks like a really good way to ruin a computer AND the carpet!" No Thank You.
              Also, the radiator fan it had was louder than my whole system! I never did plug in the water pump which needed 120v run into the computer.

              Isn't that odd... You had to run a 12v wire OUT of the computer for the fan and a 120v wire INTO the computer for the pump. Plus figure out a way to turn the pump on and off with the computer.

              I sold it to someone from Ohio who loved it.

              Keri
              Last edited by KeriJane; 07-02-2009, 09:27 PM.
              The More You Learn The Less You Know!

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              • Krankshaft
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2007
                • 2328
                • USA

                #8
                Re: another watercooling disaster.

                I come from the school of common sense that electronics and liquid don't mix.

                Heatpipes sure the liquid in them is sealed in metal tubes. Not flimsy rubber with hose clamps. I use them on my comps but thats as far as I go.

                Heatpipes, big heatsinks, and fans for my cooling needs thanks.

                Water cooling is too much.

                As KC said just like audiophools who like their special caps and whatnot. I'd like to see them identify their favorite caps with a sound test. I'd love to see them not be able to identify the equipment that has "better caps" inside.

                Because all the cool guys use water cooling and say it's better I want it too.

                But then again to each his own. It doesn't make me feel any better to see others wasting money like that though.
                Last edited by Krankshaft; 07-02-2009, 10:08 PM.
                Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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                • momaka
                  master hoarder
                  • May 2008
                  • 12170
                  • Bulgaria

                  #9
                  Re: another watercooling disaster.

                  Tell that guy to use mineral oil instead of water. At least it won't kill the system if it leaks again.

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                  • Toasty
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 4171

                    #10
                    Re: another watercooling disaster.

                    There are several non-conductive coolants for this application. A few of them also have a UV component that simplifies leak detection. They all appear to have some type of corrosion inhibitor and an algaecide as part of the mixture.

                    The systems must first be flushed completely to remove any dirt and leftover water. I've also seen it said that a once a year fluid change is recommended. Just like maintaining your car. LOL

                    Toast
                    veritas odium parit

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                    • KeriJane
                      Mac Enthusiast
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 681
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: another watercooling disaster.

                      This sounds like a great way to stimulate the Economy!

                      Let's mandate use of high-pressure liquid cooling systems on ALL computers, even Laptops.

                      Then, let's make sure that ONLY a government-approved coolant that stains anything it comes in contact with and also smells REALLY bad can be used. It should also be corrosive and toxic so as to ensure rapid leaking and massive damage to computer components, furnishings and hapless operators.

                      Just think of all the jobs that will be created!

                      Burn centers / poison control clinics

                      EPA

                      Carpet cleaners / stain removers

                      Fire departments

                      Computer repair specialists

                      Computer factories

                      All of the businesses involved with an anti-government revolt

                      Any ideas?
                      Maybe something like liquid sodium?
                      I saw a thing on TV once where they used liquid sodium to cool a nuclear reactor with disastrous results... maybe that would work?

                      Or maybe we should contact Fuhyjju as a vendor?

                      Happy 4th of July!
                      Keri
                      Last edited by KeriJane; 07-04-2009, 09:42 AM.
                      The More You Learn The Less You Know!

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                      • PCBONEZ
                        Grumpy Old Fart
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10661
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: another watercooling disaster.

                        Given the way PSU's are going toward exceeding the rating of 115v sockets (and breakers) we'll soon need 'hybrid PSU's' with a fuel tank and a kick starter.
                        .
                        Mann-Made Global Warming.
                        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                        -
                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                        - Dr Seuss
                        -
                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                        -

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                        • ratdude747
                          Black Sheep
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 17136
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: another watercooling disaster.

                          give it 2 wheels and you have the worlds first moped/supercomputer combo:

                          YOU can:

                          find the exact value of pi while taking cherry pie home

                          shoot and edit the next lame racing movie, all at the same time

                          crash and crash at the same time (survival only possible with both data and head protection )

                          better stop...
                          sigpic

                          (Insert witty quote here)

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                          • acstech
                            GrumpyModerator
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1432
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: another watercooling disaster.

                            Originally posted by KeriJane
                            Any ideas?
                            Methanol / Butanol mix. They're both corrosive, flammable, very toxic, the Butanol smells bad, and they'll probably leave a stain. Plus they both absorb water out of the air, so after it leaks it will eventually become conductive. Put in some UV green dye and you're done.
                            A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                            • 370forlife
                              Large Marge
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3112
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: another watercooling disaster.

                              Why don't we just go all the way with boiling water or sulfuric acid?

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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: another watercooling disaster.

                                because boiling water doesnt cool anything, duh.

                                it has to at least appear to work
                                sigpic

                                (Insert witty quote here)

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                                • KeriJane
                                  Mac Enthusiast
                                  • Sep 2008
                                  • 681
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: another watercooling disaster.

                                  Originally posted by ratdude747
                                  because boiling water doesnt cool anything, duh.

                                  it has to at least appear to work
                                  Hi Ratdude!

                                  Ummmm....

                                  Boiling water DOES cool something. That's why it's boiling! It's cooling the pot or heater thing or whatever is providing the heat and preventing it from getting hotter than 212℉.

                                  All we have to do in order to cool a computer with boiling water is:

                                  a- Design a computer that operates at over 212℉

                                  or

                                  b- Design a Cooling System that operates at high vacuum so that the water boils at maybe room temperature.

                                  But it's not corrosive or stinky or stain-y enough for the proposed Stimulus Computer.

                                  Happy (Achoo!) 4th of July,
                                  Keri
                                  The More You Learn The Less You Know!

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                                  • PCBONEZ
                                    Grumpy Old Fart
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 10661
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: another watercooling disaster.

                                    How about large banks of diesel powered Peltier Coolers?
                                    -
                                    Diesel generator goes in the back yard.
                                    Optional window mount brackets for Apt dwellers.
                                    . . We could sell blue LED fans for the radiator fan on the engine.
                                    .

                                    For the economy minded, a USB powered swamp cooler that retrofits into the back panel fan mount.
                                    .
                                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                    -
                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                    - Dr Seuss
                                    -
                                    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                    -

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                                    • PCBONEZ
                                      Grumpy Old Fart
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 10661
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: another watercooling disaster.

                                      How about liquid nitrogen instead of water?
                                      No wait! - That's safe...
                                      .
                                      Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                      - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                      -
                                      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                      - Dr Seuss
                                      -
                                      You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                      -

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                                      • ratdude747
                                        Black Sheep
                                        • Nov 2008
                                        • 17136
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: another watercooling disaster.

                                        or gasoline. when it heats up, it expands into a gas. mix in ethanol (say e85) to dissolve plastic pumps and fittings. when it shorts the board, then you have a compaq campfire.
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                                        (Insert witty quote here)

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