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  • Topcat
    The Boss Stooge
    • Oct 2003
    • 16956
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    #1

    Weird SSD Issue

    Long story short, I pulled a working SSD out of a system (upgraded it to a larger one) and connected the old pull to another controller. Ever since, the drive is no longer accessible, even in the system it originally came from. BIOS's see it, but it can not be initialized, read, partitioned, etc. I've tried a couple utilities on it, which see the drive....but some say 'lost partition', and timeout attempting to recover it. I can care less about the data on it, I dumped it before I started diddling with it.....but is there any way to recover/reuse the drive itself? It was perfectly fine before..... It's a 240gb OCZ TRION150.
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  • ratdude747
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    • Nov 2008
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    #2
    Re: Weird SSD Issue

    ESD? Was it used as part of a RAID array? The latter has done this to me, had to "remove" the drive from the array on a compatible controller before it would work right.
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    • Topcat
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      #3
      Re: Weird SSD Issue

      If it was ESD, that'd be a first in all my years...but I suppose it's possible. DBAN seems to be communicating with it....so I'll let DBAN zap it and see if it comes back to life.....last ditch effort before it ends up in the trash.
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      • goontron
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        • Dec 2011
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        #4
        Re: Weird SSD Issue

        ^ Ive had SMART erases bring SSDs back to life. Last ditch effort if DBAN fails
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        • RJARRRPCGP
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          • Jul 2004
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          #5
          Re: Weird SSD Issue

          Originally posted by goontron
          ^ Ive had SMART erases bring SSDs back to life. Last ditch effort if DBAN fails
          ATA secure erase time! Parted Magic is the easiest Linux distro to do that with!
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          • ratdude747
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            • Nov 2008
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            #6
            Re: Weird SSD Issue

            Originally posted by Topcat
            If it was ESD, that'd be a first in all my years...but I suppose it's possible. DBAN seems to be communicating with it....so I'll let DBAN zap it and see if it comes back to life.....last ditch effort before it ends up in the trash.
            If you toss it, can I have a crack? I'll pay shipping...
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            • Topcat
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              • Oct 2003
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              #7
              Re: Weird SSD Issue

              Originally posted by ratdude747
              If you toss it, can I have a crack? I'll pay shipping...
              Yea. I'll let you know in the next few days if it comes back to life.
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              • kaboom
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                • Jan 2011
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                #8
                Re: Weird SSD Issue

                I've had some strange issues caused by dirty SATA plugs and contacts on drives, both mechanical and a brand new SSD. The SSD in question is actually running perfectly in the E6400 I'm posting from. After imaging the original HDD to the SSD, this laptop didn't even see the SSD when placed into the internal bay. Yet it worked fine in the ext enclosure...

                Spray the SATA cable plugs with Deoxit or your favorite substitute. Also scrub the SATA connector, both power and signal, with a Deoxit-dampened swab.

                A few months ago, the HDDs (it would've seemed) in my main PC got slow. Sometimes holding the IRQs, just as a bad drive would in the old days. Re-enabling UDMA would always revert back to PIO, after any attempts to copy. I pulled the drives and cleaned the HDA-PCB contacts, and connected them to another system & backed them up. Great speeds now...

                But in the main system, back to slow-ville. An 8 hour+ ETA for what should've been an hour's worth of copying. Tried several combinations of drive/SATA cable, finally discovering one which was suspect. Sprayed the ends of all 3 with 2-26 and cleaned the SATA contacts.

                That did it. We were off, to the moon, Alice!
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                • junktv
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Re: Weird SSD Issue

                  That deoxit is expensive. Any stuff cheaper and available at stores? I'm sure I could use something like that. I know I have some pots and switches that need cleaned.

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                  • stj
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                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30977
                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: Weird SSD Issue

                    it's probably in secure mode - like a password - send a full erase sequence to it.

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                    • kaboom
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                      • Jan 2011
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                      #11
                      Re: Weird SSD Issue

                      Originally posted by junktv
                      That deoxit is expensive.
                      Borderline overpriced, actually.
                      But I had to get mini squeeze tubes of the "red" and "gold" to clean a tape deck rec/play switch.
                      It wouldn't stay "good" after repeated attempts with CRC 2-26.

                      Originally posted by junktv
                      Any stuff cheaper and available at stores? I'm sure I could use something like that. I know I have some pots and switches that need cleaned.
                      https://www.homedepot.com/p/CRC-2-26...2004/100398344

                      Also works good on DIMM and card edge contacts with either sturdy paper towels or swabs.
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                      EOL it...
                      Originally posted by shango066
                      All style and no substance.
                      Originally posted by smashstuff30
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                      • RJARRRPCGP
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 6304
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Weird SSD Issue

                        Originally posted by stj
                        it's probably in secure mode - like a password - send a full erase sequence to it.
                        If the utility in Parted Magic shows that it's frozen, use the desktop menu to put it to sleep for some seconds, then wake it back up.

                        Don't use the "Sleep" button in the Parted Magic disk utility menu-> There's a bug that makes the BIOS state fucked up and apparently causes motherboard BIOSes to keep falsely reporting an overclock failure, possibly until you clear the CMOS!
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                        • ratdude747
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                          • Nov 2008
                          • 17136
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Weird SSD Issue

                          Originally posted by stj
                          it's probably in secure mode - like a password - send a full erase sequence to it.
                          Topcat sent me the SSD... and yup, the SATA password somehow got set. Seems to be a common OCZ issue (why friends don't let friends buy OCZ?)

                          I tried to use an OCZ boot disc to secure wipe it but it immediately fails (forgot what the error was). Likewise, I couldn't find any OCZ master passwords online.

                          I'm all ears to other suggestions (or if you happen to have the OCZ master password, no it's not Toshiba's 32 spaces, I tried).
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                          • CapLeaker
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                            • Dec 2014
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                            #14
                            Re: Weird SSD Issue

                            Was the error something like "drive is security locked"?

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                            • Per Hansson
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                              • Jul 2005
                              • 5895
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                              #15
                              Re: Weird SSD Issue

                              Well, it's not really a OCZ this drive, but a rebaged Toshiba drive.
                              So you might need to use Toshiba's tools for it (if such exists).

                              If not I've had success with Linux hdparm: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase
                              However please exhaust all other options before you try that.
                              For example the MS-DOS utility hdderase.exe is a "safer" tool...
                              "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
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                                #16
                                Re: Weird SSD Issue

                                Originally posted by Per Hansson
                                Well, it's not really a OCZ this drive, but a rebaged Toshiba drive.
                                So you might need to use Toshiba's tools for it (if such exists).

                                If not I've had success with Linux hdparm: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase
                                However please exhaust all other options before you try that.
                                For example the MS-DOS utility hdderase.exe is a "safer" tool...
                                One issue... I don't have either the user or the master password! Both methods seem to require one to know the password already... which I don't since it wasn't set by a conscious person.

                                Topcat didn't set it... it set itself due to a glitch of some sort?

                                Bricked?
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                                • RJARRRPCGP
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                                  • Jul 2004
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Weird SSD Issue

                                  This is a piece of cake under Linux. With ATA secure erase, you set the password, then let it complete.
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                                  • ratdude747
                                    Black Sheep
                                    • Nov 2008
                                    • 17136
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Weird SSD Issue

                                    Originally posted by RJARRRPCGP
                                    This is a piece of cake under Linux. With ATA secure erase, you set the password, then let it complete.
                                    Can't... if you don't have the current password, you can't set the new password. If this isn't the case, please give me the command for such, as all the hdparm stuff I found required the existing password and running off a live arch stick I couldn't get anywhere.
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                                    • Sparkey55
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                                      • Jan 2010
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Weird SSD Issue

                                      Originally posted by ratdude747
                                      One issue... I don't have either the user or the master password! Both methods seem to require one to know the password already... which I don't since it wasn't set by a conscious person.

                                      Topcat didn't set it... it set itself due to a glitch of some sort?

                                      Bricked?
                                      I think HDAT2 or MHDD32 have options to unlock passwords and to reset the drives.

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                                      • RJARRRPCGP
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                                        • Jul 2004
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Weird SSD Issue

                                        Originally posted by ratdude747
                                        Can't... if you don't have the current password, you can't set the new password. If this isn't the case, please give me the command for such, as all the hdparm stuff I found required the existing password and running off a live arch stick I couldn't get anywhere.
                                        Normally, that don't happen, unless someone powered down during an ATA secure erase.

                                        And you can normally set any password, just not too long, I would try 12 characters. (normally without an existing password)

                                        And if it shows "frozen", put the PC to sleep, with the desktop menu, then wake the PC back up.
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                                        "There's nothing more unattractive than a chick smoking a cigarette" -Topcat

                                        "Today's lesson in pissivity comes in the form of a ziplock baggie full of GPU extension brackets & hardware that for the last ~3 years have been on my bench, always in my way, getting moved around constantly....and yesterday I found myself in need of them....and the bastards are now nowhere to be found! Motherfracker!!" -Topcat

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