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  • ratdude747
    Black Sheep
    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
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    #1

    disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

    Quick question :

    My aunt has a Dell latitude d630 with a worn battery that is always rub on the charger. I'd like to disable the popup in win7 that says to consider replacing the battery. I have a battery in better shape, but I and her don't want to burn a low wear oem 9 cell unit on a system that will only kill such a perfectly good battery.

    I saw no suggestions online as I already know the battery is legitimately worn. Any ideas?

    Ps- worst case she'll try to ignore the popups...
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  • brethin
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 1907
    • USA

    #2
    Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

    Your choices are:

    Replace the battery with a good battery.

    Disable the Power Icon or set device manager to disable "microsoft acpi-compliant control method battery."

    Remove the battery.

    I would just replace the battery with a good one if it were me.

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    • Th3_uN1Qu3
      Believe in
      • Jul 2010
      • 6031
      • Romania

      #3
      Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

      When you click on the battery icon in the taskbar there is a checkbox that says "Warn me if my battery needs replacement". All you have to do is untick it.
      Originally posted by PeteS in CA
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      • ratdude747
        Black Sheep
        • Nov 2008
        • 17136
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        #4
        Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

        Originally posted by brethin
        Your choices are:

        Replace the battery with a good battery.

        Disable the Power Icon or set device manager to disable "microsoft acpi-compliant control method battery."

        Remove the battery.

        I would just replace the battery with a good one if it were me.
        Given her usage patterns, any battery put in is gonna get roasted by always being charged. She literally never moves it off the charger. Her mobility isn't good either, as she's almost 78 years old and was partially disabled in a car wreck in her teens. All she does is sit in her easy chair and grab it (and a cooler pad) and use it for email, facebook, etc. Unless she goes on a trip where grounded AC power isn't available (not likely), It would be dumb to replace the battery (it's a worn 6 cell, my only spare in usable shape is the spare 9 cell to my other D630 I still own). If the run time goes to shit (relative to her usage), then the battery will be replaced... but for now, I don't see wasting money or really nice batteries here.

        Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
        When you click on the battery icon in the taskbar there is a checkbox that says "Warn me if my battery needs replacement". All you have to do is untick it.
        Doh. Last night (before you posted) I looked, it was Dell Quikset whining, not the OS... but I will note that for the next time I see her, which won't be all that long.
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        • Th3_uN1Qu3
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          • Jul 2010
          • 6031
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          #5
          Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

          Uninstall Quickset. It's useless anyway.
          Originally posted by PeteS in CA
          Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
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          • Topcat
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            • Oct 2003
            • 16958
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            #6
            Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

            What does having it on the charger have to do with it?! they stop charging when they're full, and after that they simply maintain teh battery. My netbook comes off the charger once or twice a year, as its used only for car diagnostics. Bastard still holds 7+ hours of charge.
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            • ratdude747
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              Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

              Originally posted by Topcat
              What does having it on the charger have to do with it?! they stop charging when they're full, and after that they simply maintain teh battery. My netbook comes off the charger once or twice a year, as its used only for car diagnostics. Bastard still holds 7+ hours of charge.
              Li-ion batteries wear very fast when kept fully charged. They store the best at 30% actually... Hence why you either use it or lose it. Idk about your netbook, but I know of several examples where this happened.
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              • Topcat
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                Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

                Originally posted by ratdude747
                Li-ion batteries wear very fast when kept fully charged. They store the best at 30% actually... Hence why you either use it or lose it. Idk about your netbook, but I know of several examples where this happened.
                I think thats a load of hooey.....a couple of my precisions get used maybe once every couple months....they have normal batt life, and the batts are used when I got them....but whatever you say...

                A good example of that is your LiON batt on your LSI raid controller. It's always fully charged, and never allowed to drop to 30% unless the system sits off for months on end. They last about 5 years, which is about the lifespan of them.
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                • stj
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                  • Dec 2009
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                  #9
                  Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

                  why not just run without the battery if you insist on installing crap that creates popups?

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                  • ratdude747
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                    #10
                    Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

                    Originally posted by stj
                    why not just run without the battery if you insist on installing crap that creates popups?
                    The battery is structural (one of 4 feet are mounted it to it).

                    The software is mainly to make the ALS work right... and to provide volume/brightness info when the buttons on pressed (since otherwise in windows, you don't get that by default). Yeah, the ALS sorta works without it (such as under linux) but I've found it trippy and unusable w/o quickset. Sure, if its plugged in all the time, saving power is pointless but if I can make something work for free, why not?

                    Besides, it's not the full screen popups like you have in adware... it's more like a taskbar notification... at least it had a "don't remind me again" option.

                    Topcat- 5 years, ok, fine, still, for the controller, what counts as "OK' to the controller may or may not be comparable. Not to mention the device was designed to always be powered, so I'd image there is some charge controlling magic at play (hence why BBU boards cost so much. Laptops on the other hand (maybe not the precision) were designed to not be on the charger all the time.

                    I do know in the early/mid 2000's when my dad had to provide his own work laptop (since the state of IN gave him a pentium 1 win95 dinosaur to horse around for the longest time), he cooked two batteries that way. One laptop was a Compaq Presario 1200 (AMD K6-2) and a IBM Thinkpad T22 (PIII)... yeah, they were both pretty old (they were overstock.com refurbs that killed thier batts in 2 years after purchase) and technology may be better... but Li-ion batteries still wear the same way- the cells oxide up... IIRC higher charge levels accelerate this process.

                    The only way to slow it in a charged system is what Tesla motors does (and what GM should have done with the Volt)... use an active controller to even out charging/discharging... IIRC laptop batteries still don't do that though (cost reasons?).

                    Here's some links:

                    http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...ased_batteries

                    http://www.howtogeek.com/124715/shou...-all-the-time/

                    http://www.dell.com/content/topics/g...en&cs=04#faq38 (ironically they also say it's ok to always leave it plugged in as "it won't overcharge the battery"... dell trying to sell batteries?)

                    If it works for you, fine, but I don't see the point in ruining a perfectly good extended battery (that also fits a laptop I still own) that will never get used. I might as well shoot it with a pistol at that rate... If she's use it, fine... but I don't see wasting expensive parts here.
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                    • kc8adu
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                      • Nov 2003
                      • 8832
                      • U.S.A!

                      #11
                      Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

                      yes the aging is worse at full charge but the biggie is heat along with full charge.
                      newer batteries deal with this better now.
                      for a seldom used battery run down to about 40% and store in a cool place.just have to plan ahead if you need its full runtime so you can charge it.

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                      • brethin
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1907
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                        #12
                        Re: disabling battery wear popup on windows 7

                        Originally posted by Topcat
                        I think thats a load of hooey.....a couple of my precisions get used maybe once every couple months....they have normal batt life, and the batts are used when I got them....but whatever you say...

                        A good example of that is your LiON batt on your LSI raid controller. It's always fully charged, and never allowed to drop to 30% unless the system sits off for months on end. They last about 5 years, which is about the lifespan of them.
                        The battery is not used or worn if you never use it and it remains on AC power so the only thing that will happen to a 0% wear new battery if never used is it will degrade like all batteries do.

                        Your cherished 9 cell battery will not be harmed in her laptop in any way so stop acting like its the last 9 cell battery there is.

                        Your lack of knowledge of Li-ion is making you sound stupid to those that know better so save yourself and just either put a damn battery in her laptop, disable it in the device manager (so it provides that little foot pad you need so bad the laptop to sit on) or remove the battery and run it without one.

                        If you just want the battery for its little foot pad for the laptop to sit on then just gut the battery and use the empty case.

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