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c_hegge

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#21

03-18-2013, 09:42 PM

Re: Recap question?

I wouldn't worry about it. As long as it does run and doesn't overheat. Does the board support temperature controlling?

I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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redrooster

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03-18-2013, 10:21 PM

Re: Recap question?

It doesn't support anything at the moment,(but I will check to see if it does)I put a brand new 1Tb unformatted HDD in and a few sticks of memory 2Gb to try it out. This is a new boot HDD because the old one failed, probably because of the capacitors failing? Isn't, the bios supposed to come up without the O/S installed? What I'm getting now is nothing on the monitor whilst madly clicking f10, f8, f2,but no bios is happening, I have the recovery disks for it but don't I have to format the hard drive first? Oh I nearly forgot,when I turned the computer off at the front switch it wouldn't turn on again so I swapped the PS out for another PS and it did the same .Then I found if I left it for a while it would start up again?

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c_hegge

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03-18-2013, 11:02 PM

Re: Recap question?

I just looked up that model number. It looks like an Acer Aspire motherboard. If so, then it definitely does temperature control the fans, which would explain the delay.

Originally posted by redrooster

It doesn't support anything at the moment,(but I will check to see if it does)I put a brand new 1Tb unformatted HDD in and a few sticks of memory 2Gb to try it out. This is a new boot HDD because the old one failed, probably because of the capacitors failing?

No. Bad motherboard caps shouldn't kill the HDD

Originally posted by redrooster

Isn't, the bios supposed to come up without the O/S installed?

Yes, it should

Originally posted by redrooster

What I'm getting now is nothing on the monitor whilst madly clicking f10, f8, f2,but no bios is happening,

That means that the board isn't POSTing. No key is gonna make it POST if there is a problem.

Originally posted by redrooster

I have the recovery disks for it but don't I have to format the hard drive first?

No. The recovery will format it

Originally posted by redrooster

Oh I nearly forgot,when I turned the computer off at the front switch it wouldn't turn on again so I swapped the PS out for another PS and it did the same .Then I found if I left it for a while it would start up again?

That motherboard must have another problem. Exactly what, I don't know.

Last edited by c_hegge; 03-18-2013, 11:06 PM.

I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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redrooster

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03-18-2013, 11:37 PM

Re: Recap question?

Hmmm,Ill try the recovery disks and see what happens?

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03-19-2013, 01:16 AM

Re: Recap question?

If the board isn't POSTing (ie, nothing on screen), the recovery disks aren't gonna work.

I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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03-19-2013, 02:11 AM

Re: Recap question?

Originally posted by c_hegge

If the board isn't POSTing (ie, nothing on screen), the recovery disks aren't gonna work.

Yes I found that out.Looks like some more recapping coming up,any suggestions on were I should start? What I get on screen is a black screen for about half a second and then it has PC letters on the bottom of the screen for another few secs then no signal pops up.

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03-19-2013, 02:41 AM

Re: Recap question?

If mb is too much overclocked or otherwise tampered it might not boot at all. Solution is to clear cmos. Some boards have a jumper for this, others have just two small solder dots, which must be connected for a few seconds using a small screwdriver. Removing battery (usually CR2032) might do the trick too, but needs longer waiting time, about 15-30 minutes?
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03-19-2013, 04:05 AM

Re: Recap question?

I just tried what you suggested but its still no signal,it was worth a go though. Do you happen to know were I can get a service manual for this motherboard? Ill be able to see whats going on with the schematic and what caps are responsible,if they are? I have installed a new power supply so its not that. Im not getting a beep when I turn it on ,that means hardware problem dosent it?

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03-19-2013, 04:09 AM

Re: Recap question?

On some boards you press ESC or DELete to enter bios, not an Fkey

Does it do any fault beeps

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03-19-2013, 04:20 AM

Re: Recap question?

Originally posted by selldoor

On some boards you press ESC or DELete to enter bios, not an Fkey

Does it do any fault beeps

No beeps, that points to a hardware problem I think? Ive found that this computer has delete to enter bios.Don't worry I was madly pressing that as well.Ha!

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03-20-2013, 12:52 AM

Re: Recap question?

Does a shorting pin(the blue things that short two pins together) go on the speaker pins or next to it? I cant remember if there was one there or not,I may have it mixed up with the CMOS shorting pin when I have cleared the CMOS.Just thought Id check seeing as I'm getting no beeps?
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03-20-2013, 12:55 AM

Re: Recap question?

Does a shorting pin(the blue things that short two pins together) go on the speaker pins or next to it? I cant remember if there was one there or not,I may have it mixed up with the CMOS shorting pin when I have cleared the CMOS.Just thought Id check seeing as I'm getting no beeps? And then there is the OBR pins next to it,whatever they are?

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selldoor

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03-20-2013, 04:33 AM

Re: Recap question?

You probably need to source a schematic/datasheet/ manual for your motherboard. I might have a look later but am going out now. The beeper is the round thing in the pic Hycom HY-05

The Pc speaker (if it has one) would go on the speaker pins .

OBR not sure

The jumper is likely off the Cmos - you move it to the other 2 pins to CLR Clear it.

Just a thought - if this is an ACER the silkscreen may show the caps the
wrong way round from what you expect - the semicircles for plus and minus
black/white are reversed.

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redrooster

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03-20-2013, 05:46 AM

Re: Recap question?

Originally posted by selldoor

You probably need to source a schematic/datasheet/ manual for your motherboard. I might have a look later but am going out now. The beeper is the round thing in the pic Hycom HY-05

The Pc speaker (if it has one) would go on the speaker pins .

OBR not sure

The jumper is likely off the Cmos - you move it to the other 2 pins to CLR Clear it.

Just a thought - if this is an ACER the silkscreen may show the caps the
wrong way round from what you expect - the semicircles for plus and minus
black/white are reversed.

Ive sorted the CMOS plug it was on the wrong pins apparently,the OBR is system recovery? I put a plug on it but it made no difference.I remeasured the caps again and if I measure down one end of the line of them I get 16.6uf which is perfect,at the other end I get 15uf to 16uf. So it looks like Im going to have to put another 3 caps in. I'm not looking forward to doing that. What do they use for solder on these things,40% cast iron and 60% tungsten?

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selldoor

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03-20-2013, 06:24 AM

Re: Recap question?

Ok - Did you find a manual have any any more part numbers
is it RS690M03-8EKRFS2H

Is it an AMD based board

What is the Acer or Foxconn pc model number?

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03-20-2013, 09:06 AM

Re: Recap question?

Originally posted by selldoor

Ok - Did you find a manual have any any more part numbers
is it RS690M03-8EKRFS2H

Is it an AMD based board

What is the Acer or Foxconn pc model number?

No I haven't found a service manual yet,I emailed Acer but I haven't heard back from them? That is the right board number and it is an AMD based board. On the M/B are two stickers one says 04PK73208008 PC RS690M03-8EKRFS2H and the other says MBS 88090017330044AEK00.

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03-20-2013, 09:12 AM

Re: Recap question?

Acer model no?

I am looking here but have not enough info
http://www.foxconnsupport.com/downlo...RS690M03&sort=

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03-20-2013, 09:22 AM

Re: Recap question?

Originally posted by selldoor

Acer model no?

I am looking here but have not enough info
http://www.foxconnsupport.com/downlo...RS690M03&sort=

Acer Aspire M3100

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03-20-2013, 10:17 AM

Re: Recap question?

Ive given all the numbers to a foxconn tech at that site, so all I have to do is wait and not hold my breath.Ha!

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03-20-2013, 11:11 AM

Re: Recap question?

Is this it?
http://www.manualowl.com/m/Acer%20Co.../Manual/114174

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