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  • PCBONEZ
    Grumpy Old Fart
    • Aug 2005
    • 10661
    • USA

    #41
    Re: Asus Motherboard ?

    Originally posted by brethin
    I never said nVidia chips never had issues. I beleave I have said I do not think all Nvidia Chipsets have issues.
    Originally posted by brethin
    I am sorry but I still don't buy into the whole "any nVidia chipset = bad" thing. They sold way to many of these for it to be as bad a problem as a few here make it sound.
    They sold enough their stock values went to shit and they were worried about going bankrupt.
    When all the lawsuits are finalized they may still go bankrupt.
    .
    .
    The reason Asus aren't different than other brands for you personally [I've seen what you sell] is that you only deal with obsolete or almost obsolete boards. [I'm not putting that down. I do a lot of that too. Just sayin' that's what it is.]
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    By the time boards are that old all the junkers have been culled out and trashed already so you never see them.
    In effect you are only buying boards that -passed- this 'burn in' test called 'actual use'.
    IOW: You only see the boards that managed to last a few years.
    That's a very effective way of leveling the field so far as board quality goes.
    .
    And crap boards is only 1/2 of why Asus is a crap brand.
    The other 1/2 is the companies attitude toward end-users and their underhanded business practices.
    You don't run into that because the boards you see are out of warranty before you even get them.
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    I was still doing Experts Exchange when Asus and Gigabyte went all Poly.
    The number of new postings for GA problems didn't change noticably but the number new Asus problems went up 5 or 6 times and stayed there.
    [You'd notice here too if brand new Asus boards suddenly started showing up with problems at a rate of 10-12 a week.]
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    What happened was GA designed new boards for polys.
    Asus just stuck polys on Lytic designs and expected that to work [obviously] without doing any real testing.

    I wasn't impressed with Asus before that happened.
    Their response to the caps plague was to pretend there wasn't one and make you replace everything except the mobo before they would approve an RMA - that's on boards very well documented as caps blowers elsewhere [like here] on-line.
    When they couldn't even build stable boards using all polys that was it. - I was done with Asus.
    The Asus engineers should get jobs they can handle.
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    Last edited by PCBONEZ; 02-03-2012, 04:36 AM.
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    • PCBONEZ
      Grumpy Old Fart
      • Aug 2005
      • 10661
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Asus Motherboard ?

      Originally posted by Mad_Professor
      So let me get this straight. You have your 12 year old daughter read your post to you? Frankly I don't think you have a 12 year daughter. What father buys a new gaming computer instead of investing it in their child's education?
      Secondly, a grown man doesn't type that badly. Third, I'm pretty sure you're some punkass douchebag that impersonates someone then waste people's time for kicks. If you had any morals you wouldn't be rude and insult us as low intelligent fucks as you made us out to be. If anything I think you're a disgrace to society and to yourself.
      Yeah, I think it's a sister too.
      Undecided whether it's a big sister or a little sister.
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      Mann-Made Global Warming.
      - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

      -
      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

      - Dr Seuss
      -
      You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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      • c_hegge
        Badcaps Legend
        • Sep 2009
        • 5219
        • Australia

        #43
        Re: Asus Motherboard ?

        Originally posted by PCBONEZ
        By the time boards are that old all the junkers have been culled out and trashed already so you never see them.
        In effect you are only buying boards that -passed- this 'burn in' test called 'actual use'.
        IOW: You only see the boards that managed to last a few years.
        That's a very effective way of leveling the field so far as board quality goes.
        Actually, back when I never got anything newer than Socket A to deal with, I used to think ASUS were good too. It's only been since I've started building systems with their more current gear that I really hate them.

        In any case, I've seen enough chairs fly in this thread, with members attacking each other's morals. IMHO, members are entitled to their own views on cussing, and shouldn't try to press them on others or attack others for their views. I'm out of here.
        Last edited by c_hegge; 02-03-2012, 04:52 AM.
        I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

        No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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        • Sparkey55
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2010
          • 1523
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Asus Motherboard ?

          Heck, Asus is just training ground for the boards made by ECS and PCCHIPS, AMPTRON and other China clones.

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          • PCBONEZ
            Grumpy Old Fart
            • Aug 2005
            • 10661
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Asus Motherboard ?

            Originally posted by Sparkey55
            Heck, Asus is just training ground for the boards made by ECS and PCCHIPS, AMPTRON and other China clones.
            Hsing Tech is the parent company to ECS and PcChips.
            That's also who Asus collaborates with to produce AsRock boards.
            [So you aren't far off.]
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            Mann-Made Global Warming.
            - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

            -
            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

            - Dr Seuss
            -
            You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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            • shovenose
              Send Doge Memes
              • Aug 2010
              • 6575
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Asus Motherboard ?

              I'm going to post my opinion based on my personal experiences.
              Asus motherboards aren't ALL great, just like not ALL suck...
              They often recieve really good reviews from places like TomsHardware, etc. (even though I take those reviews with a grain of salt given that they get paid more if they give it a good review)...
              Also, I have an Asus motherboard with an nVidia chipset in a Compaq computer with a Passive cooled hot-running nVidia graphics card and a lousy hot-running Seagate 160GB drive right next it, and a single case fan at the bottom of the case (weird upside-down case form factor, maybe BTX?)... so the nVidia chipset with it's TINY heatsink is probably baking itself to death in there... but I haven't had any problems with this computer really. Sure I got a nVidia driver problem once or twice where it crashes then resumes but it's more likely that has to do with Minecraft not being a erfectly-coded game and I run lots of things at once on my computer and it's only got like 3GB RAM on dual displays... so it's had to deal with a LOT and it's going like a champ.
              I don't see what everybody's problem with Asus is, and in my experience they haven't been noticeably worse than Gigabyte, ECS, etc.
              In fact I like ECS too except now my bedside PC is having some strange issues... but that's for another thread!...

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              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA

                #47
                Re: Asus Motherboard ?

                The Fuhjyyu laden Antec TP2's got great reviews at places like Toms Hardware too.
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                Reviews on brand new products are only slightly above worthless.
                You don't -really- know much until after it's been out a year or two.
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                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                -
                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                - Dr Seuss
                -
                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                -

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                • mariushm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • May 2011
                  • 3799

                  #48
                  Re: Asus Motherboard ?

                  Toms Hardware is really not what it used to be anymore.
                  The power supply reviews are actually performed at a third party laboratory in Germany that belongs to a power supply distributor or designer (or something like that).
                  At the last power supply reviews they weren't even allowed access inside that lab - they just shipped the power supplies there.
                  (You can actually tell before reading by the fact that they didn't open any power supply to show the internals)

                  There are sites that do quality reviews for various hardware... Anandtech for SSD, Jonnyguru and Techpowerup for power supplies, prad.de for monitors... for motherboards I really don't know anymore who can be trusted more.
                  Last edited by mariushm; 02-03-2012, 04:42 PM.

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                  • Scenic
                    o.O
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2642
                    • Germany

                    #49
                    Re: Asus Motherboard ?

                    Originally posted by mariushm
                    Toms Hardware is really not what it used to be anymore.
                    The whole tomshardware thing was sold off to some company years ago, so no suprise there.
                    Originally posted by mariushm
                    The power supply reviews are actually performed at a third party laboratory in Germany that belongs to a power supply distributor or designer (or something like that).
                    That would be "be quiet!" (*click*)
                    Originally posted by mariushm
                    At the last power supply reviews they weren't even allowed access inside that lab - they just shipped the power supplies there.
                    (You can actually tell before reading by the fact that they didn't open any power supply to show the internals)
                    ... essentially making the "reviews" completely worthless.. much like the rest of tomshardware.

                    Originally posted by mariushm
                    There are sites that do quality reviews for various hardware... [...] Jonnyguru and Techpowerup for power supplies [...]
                    Don't forget Hardwaresecrets
                    Last edited by Scenic; 02-03-2012, 04:52 PM.

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                    • ratdude747
                      Black Sheep
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17136
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: Asus Motherboard ?

                      Originally posted by Scenic
                      Don't forget Hardwaresecrets
                      Hardware Insights (shovenose and chegge's site) few reviews on modern PSUs haven't been too shabby either... They follow a similar format and procedure.
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                      • c_hegge
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5219
                        • Australia

                        #51
                        Re: Asus Motherboard ?

                        The procedure is similar (only with a cheaper load tester), but I only use 4 pages vs 10-11 pages on hardwaresecrets, so the end product looks a bit more like a JonnyGuru review.

                        My major gripe with HWSecrets is that they don't comment on the fan noise. That is in part why our Thermaltake TR2 Bronze reviews disagree. HWS gave it a Gold award, but I didn't. It's expensive and noisy. I ended up using the free sample in our family PC (after replacing the teapo caps with pannies), since you can't hear it over the graphics card fan.
                        I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                        No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                        • colormebad
                          colormebad
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 114
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: Asus Motherboard ?

                          Originally posted by Peter9DO
                          Well this was an excellent thread to randomly read!!!!!

                          I was quite shocked to see such negative feedback on Asus, I must say!

                          I have never really came across an issue with Asus boards, even in long term timeline. Now that you have pointed out, what seems to be an issue with Asus, I might have to look into it a little more. Now, I know they don't have very good customer service, when I have had customers pay me to fix their Asus computer while it was under factory warranty still. Due to the point, they could not take dealing with them or received their computer back from them and it still was not fixed. This has happened on several occasions, with different customers so I know it's not just a bad experience out of the blue. Also, it's the only computer manufacture that I know of that you can't buy a computer directly from their website. You have to track down a distributor. For the sake of convenience I think that's BS. But on the other hand I think it's nice that they don't want to cut out their distributors by offering prices cheaper directly to the consumers and give the distributors the opportunity to make money on their product. Maybe they just want them to sell in-store warranties so they don't have to deal with it - lol!

                          Also ColorMeBad, please don't take this the wrong way but that's kind of rude. People here take time out of their day to try to help people out by answering questions and offering free advice. For you to create a thread just to say I was playing with you to see what you know, is a waste of some good people's time. I value the thoughts and opinions of everyone on this forum, hence the reason why I post questions and my thoughts here, rather than some other forum. I really don't understand what the point of you posting this was when you clearly think you know what the answer is to your question. Stuff like this is better off on Facebook, you could have just purchased the board, took a picture of it and people who know no better would probably give you the reaction you were looking for. Just a friendly word of advice to keep yourself from being "cussed" at in the future.


                          Yeah i understand what your saying too...But when they make stupid comments about everything i post' I can post stupid comments back...But when someone cusses me ' i have no use for them and they will be ignored for good...The BOSS done said drop it so i have nothing else to say on this topic! LAter!!!!!!!

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                          • ratdude747
                            Black Sheep
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 17136
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: Asus Motherboard ?

                            Originally posted by colormebad
                            Yeah i understand what your saying too...But when they make stupid comments about everything i post' I can post stupid comments back...But when someone cusses me ' i have no use for them and they will be ignored for good...The BOSS done said drop it so i have nothing else to say on this topic! LAter!!!!!!!
                            FYI, making stupid comments in response to other stupid comments make you look just as dumb... just saying...
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                            • shovenose
                              Send Doge Memes
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 6575
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: Asus Motherboard ?

                              Originally posted by ratdude747
                              FYI, making stupid comments in response to other stupid comments make you look just as dumb... just saying...
                              Now this is an example of a stupid comment.
                              Just kidding, I agree with this statement

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