For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

[Derek23]

Re: For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

I had in the past a CTX PR705F 17" W/trinitron tube, its max res was 1600x1200@65Hz though I pushed it in 1920x1080@60 Hz, and the text was still sharp (after adjusting focus/screen pots on flyback) despite being too small and having to reduce height to keep aspect ratio, great brightness and contrast and 0 ms response time. It developed some flyback leaks that ends burning it, the H transistor, I couldn't replace them so I thrown it away, I miss it, it was a great monitor despite it took too much space in the desktop lol.

I also had a 1999, LG studioworks (I don't remember the model) 15". I pushed it in 1920x1078@50Hz, despite its max res was 1024x768@85Hz, it looked fine except blurrier in the sides and some convergence issues.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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Nice one... PM sent.

[momaka]

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1920/1200, a Compaq branded Sony Trinitron, not sure which model. Still have it, not used, but working anyway.

If this is a GDM-FW900, I think Th3_uN1Qu3 might be interested. Send him a PM if you like. He's in Bucharest, Romania as well.

[ipman]

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1920/1200, a Compaq branded Sony Trinitron, not sure which model. Still have it, not used, but working anyway.

[joshnz]

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I'm not using that monitor now I have this free one https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14949
And once I get another DVI cable I'll be using the slow one as my secondary monitor currently is ViewSonic E71f running at 1024x768

[momaka]

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If only I had a dollar for every CRT I saw running at 60Hz and without the image fully expanded, I'd be filthy rich.

That's how all of our monitors were at work. I fixed them as I was doing regular computer maintenance. Regardless of that, my boss wanted them replaced, so I did that too. It's all 20" wide (16:9 AR) LCD flat screens now - not sure why 16:9 AR for office work, but I think it's because someone found them for real cheap.

The old CRTs were hauled away by a junk removal company I think. Most of them were 17" Dell M782 flat screens and M781 non-flat, both shadow mask technology. The M782's actually looked pretty good and crisp. We had about 14 of them. If I had the space, that would have made for an awesome multi-monitor setup. Maybe a bit heavy on the power consumption, but at least I wouldn't need to run heating in the winter .

Even 4 of them would still be pretty cool! Or better yet, 12 of them - 4 in a row, 3 in a column! Still 4:3 aspect, too.

I think the haulers also took away 1 of the 2 Sony Trinitron E540's 21" CRTs. Those were like a dream to me before I had my 24" Sony. They still are pretty good, actually. The one that got thrown away had a blue tint to it, though, and was very bright. I believe we still have the other E540, though (they must have missed it out - I very happy ). I want to take it, but I think my closet will explode if I do - my closet has been eating up stuff like a black hole, and we all know how black holes end up.

all I've ever seen was 16:10 and 16:9 in a trinitron 24"....and 1600x1200 will look retarded on that!

Not if you don't stretch it. But then there's the inevitable question - WHY? (as in why that resolution). 1600x1000 is exactly 16:10 resolution. The slightly lower 1440x900 also is. Even better, maybe even the game will run faster. Then just add v-sync for 85 Hz or more (provided your game supports it) and it should look much better.

[Topcat]

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A 24" trinitron in 1600x1200? I hope it's a 4:3 A/R.....all I've ever seen was 16:10 and 16:9 in a trinitron 24"....and 1600x1200 will look retarded on that!

[pentium]

Re: For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

I regularly run 1600x1200 but I know my 24" trinitron can do much, much higher if I wanted.

[Agent24]

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Older HDDs work better than slow monitors though, in my opinion. If you've got enough RAM the games usually all load in there anyway.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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That 20.0 ms responce time kills it for gaming.

Like gaming with a 5,400 RPM HDD from 2002. O_O

[Wizard]

Re: For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

Per, Redo the tests with newer LCD late 2010 and 2011 to confirm if you can borrow them.

Cheers, Wizard

[lti]

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If only I had a dollar for every CRT I saw running at 60Hz and without the image fully expanded, I'd be filthy rich.

This whole enviroNAZI thing is just outta control. I love watching people with 5 second attention spans dump something because "it's the wrong color now, it's out of style" or "one little scratch." The walmart mob mentality has caused this hysteria where people "buy, buy, buy!" What ever happened to paying for, owning and appreciating something? Too many need an excuse to sell themsevles out to red china- oh excuse me, buy something 'new.'

We're not supposed to 'look behind the curtain' and find the flaws in the pseudo-religeon. No, we're told to just sit back... "Yes, all the fuel costs; yes, it still works; it's good to stimulate the economy(what economy?), well, it was a waste, but those aren't green." "You just be quiet now, that's green because we say it is.

My parents' old Dell monitor runs at 60Hz with no problems. The low refresh rate doesn't bother me, but increasing the refresh rate to 75Hz gives me an instant headache. I also have no problem using a monitor at 85Hz.

I repaired a CRT TV by replacing one cap. If I wouldn't have been there to repair it, it would have been thrown away and replaced with a Wal-Mart Special. That already happened with another CRT TV (same brand, but larger) with the same problem (vertical foldover). On that TV, my parents didn't want me to look at it and just let it die (the vertical deflection IC fails due to the bad cap). The replacement is a Vizio VW22L, and it is such a piece of crap that the display in my old Gateway Solo 2500 laptop has better picture quality. That TV cost about $330 at the time.

I repair anything I can unless it has been destroyed beyond repair or is not worth repairing.

Where I live, people have to have a TV. If their TV dies, they must have a working TV as quickly as possible (so they miss as little of their reality TV shows as possible), and the fastest way to have a working TV is to go to Wal-Mart and buy a new one. Then they have a big trailer trash party to destroy the old one so it can't be repaired.

[Per Hansson]

Re: For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

Old article (2 years ago!).

BTW, good catch on the 2 year old article.

Cheers, Wizard

I know, because I'm the author of it
None of the LCD manufacturers specify how much input lag their monitors have so I fail to see how this information is "outdated"
And the matter of panel type is still very much relevant and forever will be, TN always will be crap and IPS panels always will be allot better

BTW, the Eizo CRT I used was a Eizo FlexScan T965
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3442

[kaboom]

Re: For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

I never mentioned anything about X-ray emission. I don't think you understood what I was trying to tell you.
My main point is that having anything this close to your eyes is bad, be it CRT monitor, a book, or whatever else. And THAT is not a myth.


I don't see how that is "going green". Having millions of people throw out their CRTs just to get cheap throw-away LCD monitors with CapXon caps is definitely not green. The old CRTs have to go somewhere after all, they don't magically disappear. Most go *crunch* in the dump truck and then out to a landfill to spill all of that wonderful lead in the tube. Or better yet, some of them get sent to China or some other 3rd world country for "recycling", where they still end up spilling up their guts in the environment. What makes it better, though, is that fuel must also be spent to ship these items to those countries - yeah, reall green.

CRTs aren't that much inferior to LCDs. If only Microsoft made Windows to default the screen to 75 Hz or 85 Hz, I think a lot more people would have kept their CRTs monitors.

Thank you very much.

What kind of X-rays are produced with our ~30kV? The name for them is also one of the ways a tube can go bad. Soft ones! Lower kVP and less penetrating power.

If only I had a dollar for every CRT I saw running at 60Hz and without the image fully expanded, I'd be filthy rich.

This whole enviroNAZI thing is just outta control. I love watching people with 5 second attention spans dump something because "it's the wrong color now, it's out of style" or "one little scratch." The walmart mob mentality has caused this hysteria where people "buy, buy, buy!" What ever happened to paying for, owning and appreciating something? Too many need an excuse to sell themsevles out to red china- oh excuse me, buy something 'new.'

We're not supposed to 'look behind the curtain' and find the flaws in the pseudo-religeon. No, we're told to just sit back... "Yes, all the fuel costs; yes, it still works; it's good to stimulate the economy(what economy?), well, it was a waste, but those aren't green." "You just be quiet now, that's green because we say it is.


My desk is strong enough, TC!

-Paul

[sam_sam_sam]

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I have a Dell CRT monitor which I like allot but it have some problem it still work how ever I had to size down the view size because it some what distorted and the refresh use to work at 75 MHz not any more it only work at 60 MHz and it also seem that the brightness seem to pule ate

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

My main point is that having anything this close to your eyes is bad, be it CRT monitor, a book, or whatever else. And THAT is not a myth.

Thanks for not having me say that.

CRTs aren't that much inferior to LCDs. If only Microsoft made Windows to default the screen to 75 Hz or 85 Hz, I think a lot more people would have kept their CRTs monitors.

In fact they are superior to the vast majority of krappy panels. The only real objections about CRTs are physical - ie size and weight.

Defaulting to a higher refresh rate wouldn't have been a solution tho - properly supporting DDC and auto selecting optimal refresh rate without having to go in the control panel, would. DDC has worked since Win9x ffs... why they didn't auto select "optimal" is beyond me.

[momaka]

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like i said, that myth was debunked. the FDA even says its crap (see source)..

I never mentioned anything about X-ray emission. I don't think you understood what I was trying to tell you.
My main point is that having anything this close to your eyes is bad, be it CRT monitor, a book, or whatever else. And THAT is not a myth.

I do not care for the CRT due to heat and bulkiness. And good to go green anyway.

I don't see how that is "going green". Having millions of people throw out their CRTs just to get cheap throw-away LCD monitors with CapXon caps is definitely not green. The old CRTs have to go somewhere after all, they don't magically disappear. Most go *crunch* in the dump truck and then out to a landfill to spill all of that wonderful lead in the tube. Or better yet, some of them get sent to China or some other 3rd world country for "recycling", where they still end up spilling up their guts in the environment. What makes it better, though, is that fuel must also be spent to ship these items to those countries - yeah, reall green.

CRTs aren't that much inferior to LCDs. If only Microsoft made Windows to default the screen to 75 Hz or 85 Hz, I think a lot more people would have kept their CRTs monitors.

[Wizard]

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Old article (2 years ago!). Technology changes all the time at blurringly fast. Case in point: I bought a 19" (931C) in 2007 and panel was too slow and saw heavy smearing during fast scrolling. Bought new one last year 2010 LED LCD Samsung PX2370. No smearing. Things do improve.

Go to forums that is specific to the gaming and monitors and see what have changed. And general advices I put out still apply. The problem is not all monitor makers have clear info on disabling the processing even you are at native resolution. One of well known tip on samsung LCDs (tv & monitor) is change name of the input to "game" or via menu setting does this.

For example www.hardocp.com's forum's topics one of them is about monitors has deep thread just for this and up to date too on info.

When I look at web articles I always check their published date and 6 month old article can be old hat for specific topic that why I'm really frustrated when I urgently need up to date info to fix specific issues or learn certain things to help with my tasks. Also I do check old articles which is good for some general things but time sensitive stuff that's bad.

BTW, good catch on the 2 year old article.

Cheers, Wizard

[Per Hansson]

Re: For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

There are many good LCD monitors in sub 5ms to 10ms. And don't be just passive, demand loudly to the LCD monitor makers to fix the lag in the scaler board. Going by native resolution and HDMI/DVI bypasses the scaling delays.

Not all do, even some of the really expensive ones (as I found out the hard way!)

http://www.techspot.com/blog/645/an-...next-purchase/

[ratdude747]

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CRTs can emit a small amount of X-ray radiation as a result of the electron beam's bombardment of the shadow mask/aperture grille and phosphors. The amount of radiation escaping the front of the monitor is widely considered unharmful. The Food and Drug Administration regulations in 21 C.F.R. 1020.10 are used to strictly limit, for instance, television receivers to 0.5 milliroentgens per hour (mR/h) (0.13 µC/(kg·h) or 36 pA/kg) at a distance of 5 cm (2 in) from any external surface; since 2007, most CRTs have emissions that fall well below this limit.

source: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/script...cfm?fr=1020.10

like i said, that myth was debunked. the FDA even says its crap (see source)..