For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

[momaka]

Re: For the CRT monitor freaks - highest resolution you ran on your tube?

My crappy video cards won't do 2048x1536 for my Trinitron CRT... though recently I've got a small influx of better 'crappy' video cards.

You really wouldn't want to run your Trinitrons at 2048x1536, anyways. Even a few of the 21" screens will look a tiny bit blurry at 1600x1200.

Now whether or not I want to recap a GeForce 6200 or not... All of its caps blew up, but it's better than an ATI Rage 64 (8MB RAM, not enough video ram for 2048x1536 true color for starters)...

ATI Rage . Sure as heck can make anyone rage. Only a slight upgrade from the ATI Rage XL on my HP NetServer E800 - man, talk about slow. That thing can't even handle 1024x768 on its own. It boggs down the CPU to do everything. Should be renamed ATI Rage CDD (Crude Display Device).

Also, let me guess... that GeForce 6200 is made by eVGA, XFX, or Galaxy. Here's what mine looked like:
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=37602
Yes, it's worth recapping it. The GeForce 6200 isn't much good for gaming, but it's more than enough for desktop use.

1920x1440 @120Hz on a Phillips Brilliance 107P4 17". Trinitron tube as well.

Was anything even visible at that resolution? Also, are you sure it was a Trinitron tube? IIRC, Philips was always shadow mask or Chromaclear in some cases. If it was a Trinitron, I bet the vertical convergence was terrible. Trinitrons always have good horizontal convergence, due to the aperture grill design.

I saw this thing in Goodwill today for $19! I wish I had the space for it. I really wanted to take it home with me and use it as my main TV lol
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1453786208

Nice, I didn't know Panasonic made widescreen CRTs. I've only seen Sony, Samsung, and Philips do (and possibly Toshiba, too). Every once in a while, you can find one of these being given out on my local Craigslist. I'd get one as well, if I had the space. $19 is still a fair price, though.

u should have given your dorm mates a good education about the good ol' stuff and why they dont make em like they used to.

Ha! Half of my dorm mates were heavy stoners - they couldn't be bothered to give a stinky fart about anything. The other half got chased away by the former, due to their laid-back habits. And either way, I think the most serious discussion we ever got into was a fictitious scenario about whether or not any one of use would go out with a much older woman (40+), provided that she was good looking... but I digress here

me three! i would like to view your personal home museum some day. dont charge me an entry fee just because im a foreign tourist ok plz?

Entrance is free, but there will be a huge penalty if I see any finger smudges on the glass of my CRT screens .
Even my dumpster-picked CRTs (only two of them, actually) get cleaned to a squeak:
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1454371945

waaaah a crt and a hdtv to boot?! a fine rare item i must say!

The late Sony's and Samsung's had them too. The Sony's did have a few problems, though - mainly with the power supplies, IIRC (the MCZ3001D PWM ICs, I think).

so its a steal, assuming panny didnt have any issues with their crts like they did with their plasmas.

If the guts of that widescreen above are anything like the other older 4:3 black Panasonic TV's I've seen from the early-mid 90's, then they are bullet-proof. I've seen a countless number of those being given out on the local Craislist, and not a single thing wrong with any of them. Just about every hotel, motel, and school classroom used to have these. Never saw one break.

[Heihachi_73]

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Or for playing games on a classic NES.

[ZnsaneRyder]

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CRT Monitors are awesome, nothing beats one for having it close to your bed to watch movies.

[Behemot]

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What the hell? I did not get that much from 202P4. Which reminds me it is still bad for last two years…

[Dan81]

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1920x1440 @120Hz on a Phillips Brilliance 107P4 17". Trinitron tube as well.

I can only say...this is the next most awesome CRT I've laid my eyes on,along with Sony Trinitrons and an AOC 17" I have at another place,hooked up to.... *drum roll!*...a Phenom II X4 960T system. Yes,a 960T. The old 17" LCD it has is one of LordMMX (if you saw MP-Tuners Pentium II/Vista clips back in 2005-2008)masterpieces - a bit of the screen is covered by colored lines. Elonex branded,never heard of that brand.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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looks like panny pulled off a kzg with their plasma tvs!

QFT! Hit-and-miss.....

[Pentium4]

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waaaah a crt and a hdtv to boot?! a fine rare item i must say! if its 19 bucks its definitely a steal. panny made some crappy plasma displays till they got sued in a class action lawsuit! so its a steal, assuming panny didnt have any issues with their crts like they did with their plasmas. looks like panny pulled off a kzg with their plasma tvs!

I know It had HDMI too and the entire thing was in excellent shape. I'm sure the picture is amazing. When I have the space I would love to own one! I still prefer the picture of a tube over a flat screen

[ChaosLegionnaire]

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Well, you should have seen the looks on people's faces when I moved out of my first college apartment 2 summers ago . Some people even asked me if I was shooting a film taking place in the 90's (similar to Office Space ). No one could believe that anyone (sane) would still use these old things.

u should have given your dorm mates a good education about the good ol' stuff and why they dont make em like they used to. all study and no play makes jack a dull boy... like a fictional grandpa once said in the other thread:

well kids, long before your time back in grandpa's time during the 90s, we built things and pcs to last a long time. not the buy n' throwaway sheet u see today in 2050. everything was built with both IQ and EQ. today, things are built with neither IQ nor EQ. stupid designs, cost cutting decisions, totally brainless lack of IQ design there. EQ i dont need to say. if it spoils, they just say thats your own problem! and u're on your own.

Man, I need to visit you some time.

me three! i would like to view your personal home museum some day. dont charge me an entry fee just because im a foreign tourist ok plz?

I saw this thing in Goodwill today for $19! I wish I had the space for it. I really wanted to take it home with me and use it as my main TV lol

waaaah a crt and a hdtv to boot?! a fine rare item i must say! if its 19 bucks its definitely a steal. panny made some crappy plasma displays till they got sued in a class action lawsuit! so its a steal, assuming panny didnt have any issues with their crts like they did with their plasmas. looks like panny pulled off a kzg with their plasma tvs!

[Pentium4]

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I saw this thing in Goodwill today for $19! I wish I had the space for it. I really wanted to take it home with me and use it as my main TV lol

[mariushm]

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Historically, ATI video cards had a much better RAMDAC and overall better analogue section (less blurry images, sharper text etc).

On the newer video cards, there's less focus on the analogue stuff, and more on Displayport and hdmi, so I suspect the vga outputs are of less quality - also they spec the vga outputs to maximum 1920x1200 (Intel definitely does it with their integrated video stuff)

Anyways, I'm more and more tempted to replace my two 1920x 1200/1080 monitors with a single 32-40" 4k monitor

I've looked at this Phillips 40" one for a long time but there's several reviews that put me off, some say it's quite blue (can be calibrated but still..) and some say the subpixels are layed out a bit differently compared to most monitors and that means i'd have to adjust the Cleartype settings in Windows and other crap like this...

I'm hoping in a few months there's going to be some decent 4k monitor with Freesync showing up.

[eccerr0r]

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For CRTs I think horizontal resolution is pretty much limited by monitor bandwidth.
Vertical resolution is limited by the PLL and line tracer in the monitor... if it can't lock onto the vertical retrace it will give up and the image will be trashed.

My "good" video cards are currently driving my LCDs. My crappy video cards won't do 2048x1536 for my Trinitron CRT... though recently I've got a small influx of better 'crappy' video cards.

Now whether or not I want to recap a GeForce 6200 or not... All of its caps blew up, but it's better than an ATI Rage 64 (8MB RAM, not enough video ram for 2048x1536 true color for starters)...

[momaka]

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No, not confusing them with Macron haha. I never knew Micron made all those things though. I love that setup, I wish I had it, actually

Yeah, good little system back in the days. Also made really loud beep tone at POST, if I remember correctly.

By the way, turns out I do have a Micron keyboard. It's a little older than the one in the above picture (no Windows and right-click menu keys, and Enter key is really big) and uses rubber domes and has metal backing. Very nice and clicky, though. Almost mistook it for a mechanical keyboard. If it wasn't for the small Backspace key (due to it being split for the "\" character), I'd use it as my main keyboard.

Man, I need to visit you some time. I think we would be best friends lol

Yes, you're always welcome! And in general, if you ever do come visit the East Coast and need a place to stay/crash, let me know. I think you know my address already.

[Pentium4]

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I'm not too surprised to see a Micron CRT. They also had cases, keyboards, mice, and probably some other hardware with their brand on them. Not sure who made it for them, but they were usually decent quality as far as I remember. When I was in middle school, all of our classrooms were equipped with Pentium 3 Macron PCs, Macron CRT monitors, and Macron keyboards.
I think it was these ones:
http://www.sabcal.com/images/micron_pc.jpg
I learned to (properly) type on one of these back then.

No, not confusing them with Macron haha. I never knew Micron made all those things though. I love that setup, I wish I had it, actually

Well, you should have seen the looks on people's faces when I moved out of my first college apartment 2 summers ago . Some people even asked me if I was shooting a film taking place in the 90's (similar to Office Space ). No one could believe that anyone (sane) would still use these old things.

Man, I need to visit you some time. I think we would be best friends lol

[momaka]

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You have any Trinitrons? I had one, but it almost caught on fire.

Yes, five of them
Dell D1025HTX (17")
Dell D1025TM (17")
Dell D1626HT (21")
Sony E-540 (21")
two Sony GDM-FW900 (24") (one is dead, so I am not counting it above)

I doubt yours could have caught fire. They have some of the best protection circuits I've seen. My dead GDM-FW900 can even detect when the HV is overloaded and automatically cuts off. No damage to the flyback whatsoever.

a Micron CRT?! Never knew they ventured in that area. Maybe it's rebranded?

Just to make sure... you're not confusing that with Macron (the PSU brand), are you?

I'm not too surprised to see a Micron CRT. They also had cases, keyboards, mice, and probably some other hardware with their brand on them. Not sure who made it for them, but they were usually decent quality as far as I remember. When I was in middle school, all of our classrooms were equipped with Pentium 3 Macron PCs, Macron CRT monitors, and Macron keyboards.
I think it was these ones:
http://www.sabcal.com/images/micron_pc.jpg
I learned to (properly) type on one of these back then.

I gladly accepted the weird looks for admiring this old thing in the store

Well, you should have seen the looks on people's faces when I moved out of my first college apartment 2 summers ago . Some people even asked me if I was shooting a film taking place in the 90's (similar to Office Space ). No one could believe that anyone (sane) would still use these old things.

[Pentium4]

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I spotted this thing in the music store the other day. I of course went straight to the back of it and was really surprised. a Micron CRT?! Never knew they ventured in that area. Maybe it's rebranded? There is almost zero information on it. I gladly accepted the weird looks for admiring this old thing in the store

[TechGeek]

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You have any Trinitrons? I had one, but it almost caught on fire.

[momaka]

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You're saying that I can drive a CRT at 2000x2000 or more at a 16:9 aspect ratio(because why not)?

Well, at 2000x2000, the aspect ratio wouldn't be 16:9... it would be 1:1

But yes, you can drive a CRT at that or any other resolution you like, as long as the monitor supports it. For newer PnP (Plug-n-Play) monitors, normally the resolution is limited by the electronics in the CRT (you get an out-of-sync, unrecognized resolution, no signal, or other similar message when trying to over-drive the CRT). This limitation usually comes from the CRT's maximum horizontal and vertical scan rates and the signal bandwidth.

What mockingbird was trying to say in his comment is, that with CRTs you don't really have a "native" resolution like you do with LCDs. With LCDs, it is best to run it at the resolution that it is made for (usually maximum). That's because in an LCD, you have a set number of vertical and horizontal pixels. So unless you run some resolution that has its vertical and horizontal size as a multiple of the native, the screen will usually look more blurry.

With a CRT this doesn't happen because you don't have a set number of pixels. You have dot triads (shadow mask screens) or dot rows (aperture grille screens - which is basically the Sony Trinitron technology). But neither the vertical nor the horizontal pixel count is set in a CRT screen. So running at a lower resolution than the "recommended" usually gives you an even more clear picture.

Also, because the "pixels" in CRTs not exactly square, the picture on the screen usually has a slightly anti-aliased look. This is great news if you have a gaming computer and can't do the native resolution of your monitor. On a CRT, you can do any resolution, and you are a lot less likely do notice any "dancing pixels", even without anti-aliasing.

[TechGeek]

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People were always complaining about the motion in LCDs for games... I think this is a bunch of hooey. I have played countless hours of Age Of Chivalry on an LCD, I never noticed any fluidity ptoblems.

But I agree that CRTs are still better. Why? No fixed aspect ratio and the light from a CRT is good for your eyes.

You're saying that I can drive a CRT at 2000x2000 or more at a 16:9 aspect ratio(because why not)?

[rs232killer]

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Obrigado

[eccerr0r]

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I still have two CRTs that I haven't dumped yet:

trinitron 21" 2048x1536@60Hz (normally use at 1600x1200@85)
shadowmask 19" 1600x1200@60Hz (normally use at 1280x1024@75)

While I really can't discern too much flicker (takes some effort to see it) running these monitors at this spec is getting close to their bandwidth limits and the dots aren't as sharp as with a lower resolution - though at max resolution it's still not that bad and very usable. But both these CRTs exceed the resolution of all my other displays... and I still don't use them - I solely use my LCDs...