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  • ben7
    Capaholic
    • Jan 2011
    • 4059
    • USA

    #361
    Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

    ^ Yeah, they look like rocket-ships! :P
    Muh-soggy-knee

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    • Rulycat
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Apr 2010
      • 724
      • United Kingdom

      #362
      Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

      They make KZG look like top of the range!

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      • Pentium4
        CapXon Be Gone
        • Sep 2011
        • 3741
        • USA

        #363
        Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

        Wow that is amazing! I didn't know caps could even do that by themselves here are some Skywell SHIT series from an Nvidia FX 5200. Bought in July, 2004 failed in January, 2007. There was a ton of dried electrolyte on the tops of the caps but it fell off
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        • ben7
          Capaholic
          • Jan 2011
          • 4059
          • USA

          #364
          Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

          Originally posted by Pentium4
          Wow that is amazing! I didn't know caps could even do that by themselves here are some Skywell SHIT series from an Nvidia FX 5200. Bought in July, 2004 failed in January, 2007. There was a ton of dried electrolyte on the tops of the caps but it fell off
          I'm surprised that small un-vented one hasn't exploded yet :P
          Muh-soggy-knee

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          • Pentium4
            CapXon Be Gone
            • Sep 2011
            • 3741
            • USA

            #365
            Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

            Originally posted by ben7
            I'm surprised that small un-vented one hasn't exploded yet :P
            Me too! That one is 510uF 4V, seems like a strange value for a lytic but then again I don't pay much attention to caps on video cards

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            • Shocker
              Banned
              • Dec 2011
              • 635

              #366
              Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

              The SEL series is polymer. That's why it hasn't popped.

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              • Pentium4
                CapXon Be Gone
                • Sep 2011
                • 3741
                • USA

                #367
                Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                Originally posted by Shocker
                The SEL series is polymer. That's why it hasn't popped.
                Oh okay. Should it still be replaced?

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                • Shocker
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 635

                  #368
                  Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                  Replace it if you want to be safe.

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                  • Badboy666
                    New Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 8
                    • USA

                    #369
                    Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                    Maybe someone can help since you know so much about capacitors.
                    I have a Magnavox 47MF437B LCD TV and one night watching tv I heard
                    snap or a sound like a small firecracker, than my tv went black.
                    Someone told me it was the caps so I took off the back and looked at all and I mean all of the caps and found nothing wrong with them. What else would make that kind of sound and cause the problem with my tv ? Any Help ?
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                    • ben7
                      Capaholic
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 4059
                      • USA

                      #370
                      Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                      Originally posted by Badboy666
                      Maybe someone can help since you know so much about capacitors.
                      I have a Magnavox 47MF437B LCD TV and one night watching tv I heard
                      snap or a sound like a small firecracker, than my tv went black.
                      Someone told me it was the caps so I took off the back and looked at all and I mean all of the caps and found nothing wrong with them. What else would make that kind of sound and cause the problem with my tv ? Any Help ?
                      Please, make a thread in the repairing TV's section. This is only for photos of badcaps!

                      Not only capacitors can explode, a mosfet might have exploded.

                      -Ben
                      Muh-soggy-knee

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                      • mariushm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • May 2011
                        • 3799

                        #371
                        Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                        Someone posted these on reddit:

                        http://www.reddit.com/r/techsupportg...smelled_funny/


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                        • PeteS in CA
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 3581
                          • USA, Unsure of Planet

                          #372
                          Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                          Holey Carp! What happened? Did the mobo develop an internal short on a high current voltage plane?!
                          PeteS in CA

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                          • Pentium4
                            CapXon Be Gone
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 3741
                            • USA

                            #373
                            Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                            Look at those tough Panny's. Right in the center of the fire of hell and not venting

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                            • momaka
                              master hoarder
                              • May 2008
                              • 12175
                              • Bulgaria

                              #374
                              Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                              Originally posted by mariushm
                              ^ WHAT THE F@#$!!!

                              Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                              What happened? Did the mobo develop an internal short on a high current voltage plane?!
                              Must have... then again, why would there be a high current voltage plane in that area of the board? The highest current is around the CPU and sometimes around NB. Other parts of the board are usually low power and all linear regulated. Also, I've tried shorting high-current planes on motherboards before - they all spark and then the motherboards shut down. Haven't found any buck regulators that don't have OCP.

                              This is coming out of an ASUS motherboard, though, so I'm not too surprised. I have an AsRock that has bad PCB discoloration under the RAM linear regulators. The MOSFETs in that circuit get so hot that you cannot touch them and so do the caps around them. ECS may be crappy, but at least I haven't seen them do things like that - not as often as ASUS and AsRock anyways. ASUS

                              Originally posted by Pentium 4
                              Look at those tough Panny's. Right in the center of the fire of hell and not venting
                              Panny's are indeed the toughest caps I've seen. I used to rework Xbox 360s, and one particular one I reworked at least 8 times (removing/reballing GPU). The Panny's never even bulged a little, despite being heated so many times on the rework machine. The Rubycons and Nichicons usually start to bulge a little after 3-4 heat cycles (though it is a recoverable bulge - i.e. not due to the electrolyte failing but only due to excessive pressure buildup from the heat... after they cool you can press their top down and it will stay that way and cap appears fine on ESR meter even after months).
                              Also, in HP DC5000 SFF computers, Panny's are the only caps I've never seen bulged by the CPU. The Rubycon MCZ usually do. Pannasonic
                              Last edited by momaka; 01-06-2013, 11:18 PM.

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                              • ben7
                                Capaholic
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 4059
                                • USA

                                #375
                                Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                                You know, if it was a high current plane then the power supply would have blown up, or shutdown. However, it only takes a few watts to make an electrical fire! I bet something shorted and it was connected through a long, somewhat thin trace which heated up and caught the board on fire, but that is just a guess. It would take a minute or two for a semiconductor burnout to actually make the motherboard smoke though.
                                Muh-soggy-knee

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #376
                                  Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                                  My guess would be a protection PTC for one of the outputs, like USB or Firewire. They do like to burn when they fail.
                                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                                  • momaka
                                    master hoarder
                                    • May 2008
                                    • 12175
                                    • Bulgaria

                                    #377
                                    Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                                    Originally posted by tom66
                                    My guess would be a protection PTC for one of the outputs, like USB or Firewire. They do like to burn when they fail.
                                    Yes, but not this badly!

                                    I don't think we are seeing the full story here. There must have been something else in the case below the motherboard that continued to burn after whichever component set off the initial fire. PC boards are usually UL 94 compliant and V-0 rated (meaning that the board should extinguish itself in 10 seconds or less once the heat/fire source is removed).

                                    For the board to burn like that by itself, it will take it a lot more than a few watts. My only guess to all of this is if an internal trace in the PCB from the 12V rail shorted to ground and if the trace itself wasn't thick enough to trip OCP AND if the PSU had a single 12V rail with lots of Amps available.

                                    Regardless, I still dislike ASUS/AsRock .
                                    Last edited by momaka; 01-08-2013, 09:04 PM.

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                                    • pdavid
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Jan 2011
                                      • 279
                                      • Hungary

                                      #378
                                      Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                                      My newest favourite capacitor brand:

                                      These were in a junk M-tech "450W" psu. The unit's standby circuit is horribly shorted. These are all the caps from the secondary! 2200uF 16V, 1000uF and 2200uF 5V. All dry or shorted, but no visual indication.
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                                      • ben7
                                        Capaholic
                                        • Jan 2011
                                        • 4059
                                        • USA

                                        #379
                                        Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                                        Originally posted by pdavid
                                        My newest favourite capacitor brand:

                                        These were in a junk M-tech "450W" psu. The unit's standby circuit is horribly shorted. These are all the caps from the secondary! 2200uF 16V, 1000uF and 2200uF 5V. All dry or shorted, but no visual indication.
                                        I have seen those before too.

                                        Then use thick aluminum though, good for exploding! :P
                                        Muh-soggy-knee

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                                        • jm20101
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Sep 2012
                                          • 51
                                          • Netherlands

                                          #380
                                          Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage

                                          Picture 1&2: Bad JENPO Caps from a Chieftec/High power HPC-340-201 PSU
                                          Picture 3: Bad JAMICON cap from a bestec PSU
                                          Picture 4: Bad HEC cap from a FARES 400W PSU
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