China desperate for workers

[willawake]

lol this is excellent, i was just reading it in the Times newspaper.

Sweatshops are becoming a thing of the past as skilled staff wont get out of bed for less than $86 and factory workers flex their muscles

Shenzen is considering raising the minimum wage of $86 a month which is the highest in china. compares with 750m chinese farmers getting $16. basically they leave the farms to work in the consumer goods factories.

but now there is labour shortages and some strikes for more money.

looks good. let them demand more and more money. eventually bring the jobs back home.

actually on another but similar matter, several call centres including amazon and some mobile phone companies are developing call centres in barcelona and ireland. they are finding poor language skills with the indian call centres so they would rather employ an irish or spanish who is more expensive but speaks 3 european languages. i like that stuff also, although we dont have the same problem here, try to find an indian who speaks greek!!

[MD Willington]

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Interesting...

[denyu]

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$86 dollars/month ??? that's why they so cheap

[Shroomie]

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I suppose it was gonna happen sooner or later. Heck, I'm all for it.

The second thought made me grin. I know they've been coming back to Canada, or at least South America, for the US market cos we can't understand the Indians, either!

[denyu]

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@willawake it is difficult either to find a greek who can speak indian's

[trodas]

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Well, wages around the world has to got even - for same work - sometimes. The question is only when...

ATM these "cheap countries" stealing the jobs from these countries, where workers already fighted out better wages. This current globalization might be very well the end of capitalism as we know it.

At least a strict anti-globalistic rules we should demand from our politicians - however since they are mostly payed from these global corporations, I dubt that we get that in reasonable time.

And meanwhile they should start making these nice Samxon GA line - now!

[Super Nade]

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Well, I look at it in the following way, support goes elsewhere shile design is mostly US based. The consequence of this would be the re-tooling of the American workforce. You will soon see (hopefully with government support) more people with college degrees and a general increase in overall standards. I don't think there is enough time in a global economy to sit and complain. It is not cool that others are taking away jobs in the US, but that can only fuel competition. Eventually American know-how will emerge in the forefront, because they have been doing this forever. However, it would take a big effort to realize where things are lacking and improve on them.

[trodas]

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Super Nade - I wish I have your optimizm that someone can actually compete with these big players that can produce cheap shit, yet push it by marketing and most users buy it.
So the quality making, american by orign company is going to lose. Talking about degrees is funny, since americans are going backwards there, not to mention that their abilities don't stand much chances in world.

Look at it this way. In the mathematicaly-scientific-kryptographic field - who in past 2 years show unbeliable progress and first produced and described MD5 collisions? SHA collisions? Etc?

All China guys and gals. Where is your america? Like one funny video said - all america population is smaller that the margin of error by estiminating the china population.
And as soon, as China start selling the petro dollars $$$ of USA debt, the USA economy collapse and the country begin to play only very insignificant role in the world.

Sorry to broke up your bouble

[willawake]

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when oil is traded in euro it is a different story

[japlytic]

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We have banks which use call centres in India (skills shortage?), at the expense of Australian jobs (as well as the future of our kids!). Perhaps we should reconsider outsourcing of labour to foreign countries...

[Big Pope]

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Is it US$86? If yes, it is possible.

[trodas]

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willawake -

when oil is traded in euro it is a different story

When Saddam started selling oil for euro, he get invaded and the oil sales currency get back to dollar immediatelly.

When Iran start to run it's euro-based oil sales, what do you think will happen?




Forget A-bomb, look for the real reasons. If the USrael are so worried about Iran gaining it, then they should not give Iranians actually working blueprints of advanced plutonium implosion A-bomb design:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story...678220,00.html

[arneson]

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Hoh o ho man,
The Shiite may hit the fan.

[trodas]

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Now ATM I'm just grateful that Heybollah saved us all from the immediate danger of WW3. Since as they kicked asses of these jewish zionist war criminals in Lebanon, the another war mongers in White House took notice and realized that if jews get kicked so badly, then the US army did not stand a snowball in hell chance in Iran, so they will press on the diplomatic solution from now on

Hoooray one might say!
( http://www.newyorker.com/fact/conten.../060821fa_fact )

After all, I did not understand how the jews could be so blind and so underestiminated the Hezbollah. It is not only wide-spreadly supported political party (major Arab figures support in Egypt: Nasser - 82% support, Ahmadinejad - 73% support, Osama - 52% support) but it is also a group of undebatable war skills - after all, Izrael occupied Lebanon for 22 years, so they have plenty of time to train on their soldiers.

It is a less known fact, but it is a fact that jews started the Lebanon conflict ( http://www.wciv.com/showstory2.hrb?f=n&s=343816&f1=loc ) when send 30 soldiers into soutern Lebanon. Hezbollah was ready, killing 8 and capturing 2 - the rest run back to Izrael
This was the first shock for "4th strongest army in the world". So, they immediatelly send tanks in rescue mission. However when first Merkava was destroyed and crew killed including one brave jew, that was trying to save them - they again was forced to run back. Second shock. Third come, when to support the air-raids, one gunboat shelling the Lebanon from sea. As usual for zionist murderers, they fired at civilian buildings, however Hezbollah got to test Iran missiles. One was about to hit from top, but missed and exploded into water. Second should hit from side and it scored well - not hitting low enought to sink the gunboat, but still killing crew of four jewis terrorists That was the third shock, so the murderous bombing that follow is peartly result of this too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

Why did not they learn from history? Hezbollah is not force witch can be taken lightly. After all, they hold two records. The biggest non-noclear explosion on Earth and the highest one-day death tool (241) for US army since Japs in WW2 and Iwo Jima. They know how to handle occupants well

...five-ton Mercedes dump truck hurled past sandbagged marine sentries and smashed through a guardhouse into the ground floor of the "Beirut Hilton", the US military barracks in a former PLO headquarters next to the international airport. The truck's payload was an amazing 5,400 kilograms of high explosives. "It is said to have been the largest non-nuclear blast ever [deliberately] detonated on the face of the Earth."

"The force of the explosion," continued Eric Hammel in his history of the marine landing force, "initially lifted the entire four-story structure, shearing the bases of the concrete support columns, each measuring 15 feet [4.5 meters] in circumference and reinforced by numerous one-and-three-quarter-inch [45-millimeter] steel rods. The airborne building then fell in upon itself. A massive shock wave and ball of flaming gas was hurled in all directions." The marine (and navy) death toll of 241 was the corps's highest single-day loss since Iwo Jima in 1945.

Meanwhile, another Hezbollah kamikaze had crashed his explosive-laden van into the French barracks in West Beirut, toppling the eight-story structure, killing 58 soldiers. If the airport bomb repaid the Americans for saving Gemayel, this second explosion was probably a response to the French decision to supply Saddam Hussein with Super-Etendard jets and Exocet missiles to attack Iran.

( http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/HD13Aa01.html )

[tazwegion]

Re: China desperate for workers

Shenzen is considering raising the minimum wage of $86 a month which is the highest in china. compares with 750m chinese farmers getting $16. basically they leave the farms to work in the consumer goods factories.

Since the change to Industrial Relations laws in Australia, companies have been importing skilled Chinese workers to work for less than their Aussie co-workers, AFAIK such jobs are up 60% on last years stats

I'm saddened that these companies can claim a shortage of skilled (local) workers... and turn around and 'can' apprenticeships, if they truly can't find locals with the skills they need... why must they pay their imported workers less? it has all the aroma of a cheap labour scheme...

[arneson]

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the aroma of a cheap labour scheme...

It stinks, it's cheap and it's hard work. Sounds about right.

[denyu]

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Hmmm thats sound familiara :P