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  • Danstona
    Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 48
    • Canada

    #41
    Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

    Ok, so I am seeing -14.87vdc on what I believe is the VCC leg. Tracing it on the board it connects to CP818

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

      You mean +14.87VDC if you use the negative leg of the main filter cap as the GND REF. for the meter.
      If it is then that IC is not working because it has VCC but it is not running.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • Danstona
        Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 48
        • Canada

        #43
        Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

        Originally posted by budm
        You mean +14.87VDC if you use the negative leg of the main filter cap as the GND REF. for the meter.
        If it is then that IC is not working because it has VCC but it is not running.
        Ok, I put negative lead to tv chassis and positive to VCC, my Fluke meter read -14.87. I don't feel comfortable crossing sides with the meter leads when the board is lifted and loose.
        If this IC is bad, before I go replacing it and CP820.. could there still potentially be other problems? I don't want to end up rebuilding the entire PSU if a working replacement is available. I'm also playing around with a 50" LG that I need to open, and see what parts may be required while ordering.

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

          You are working in the hot side of the circuit so you cannot use chassis as the GND ref. for your meter, the Negative leg is the GND ref. for the meter, that is why it should not be negative Voltage as your report.
          At this point you may be better off buying a working replacement board.
          Do you have tools to do surface mounted repair works?
          Last edited by budm; 12-03-2017, 08:16 PM.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • Danstona
            Member
            • Dec 2017
            • 48
            • Canada

            #45
            Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

            I do not and have not ever attempted surface mount repair work. I just have a regular adjustable temperature iron. If we're fairly certain that the PSU is the issue, then I'll order up a replacement since I cannot properly fix.

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            • Danstona
              Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 48
              • Canada

              #46
              Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

              On second thought, what would be the best preferred tools to properly repair this? Shopjimmy doesn't say its not available, but when you click on it its out of stock... I'd really like to salvage the set rather than toss it.
              Basically looking for suggestions of soldering iron etc.
              Last edited by Danstona; 12-03-2017, 09:41 PM.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #47
                Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                Originally posted by Danstona
                I do not and have not ever attempted surface mount repair work. I just have a regular adjustable temperature iron. If we're fairly certain that the PSU is the issue, then I'll order up a replacement since I cannot properly fix.
                At this point we know that we have PS-ON but the PFC circuit did not operate so without boosted Voltage then you will not have the backlights.
                We do not know the condition of the main board and the T-CON board unless you can see the image on the screen using the flash lights.
                You will have to practice on some junk board first before attempting on the real board otherwise you can damage the traces.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Danstona
                  Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 48
                  • Canada

                  #48
                  Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                  I can do that. I just need advice on the best iron to buy. The picture is there with flashlight. So input board and tcon seem to be operating.

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                  • vinceroger69
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 6714
                    • uk

                    #49
                    Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                    shopjimmy do a repair kit for this board
                    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-BN4...-/361606113610

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                    • Danstona
                      Member
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 48
                      • Canada

                      #50
                      Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                      Originally posted by vinceroger69
                      shopjimmy do a repair kit for this board
                      https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-BN4...-/361606113610
                      thanks but no parts in this kit are of the defective ones

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                        The kit is for xxx340B, your board is xxx341B.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • vinceroger69
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 6714
                          • uk

                          #52
                          Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                          Originally posted by budm
                          The kit is for xxx340B, your board is xxx341B.
                          sorry op not sure why in my search that wrong board number came up.

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                          • Danstona
                            Member
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 48
                            • Canada

                            #53
                            Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                            budm, how do I go about finding that IC on digikey to order, like value. Along with the CP820.. and maybe get that CI818 just incase for future.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                              The schematic gives you the P/N of the IC and the value of the cap.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Danstona
                                Member
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 48
                                • Canada

                                #55
                                Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                                I did a search for the fan7530 they come up with an MX at the end, is that compatible thats my only concern...

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                                • yshraybm
                                  New Member
                                  • Jan 2023
                                  • 1
                                  • United States

                                  #56
                                  Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                                  Did you ever figured it out? I too have blown CP820. Was it just capacitor or was it more to it?

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                                  • nomoresonys
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jan 2013
                                    • 12206
                                    • U.S.

                                    #57
                                    Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F no backlight

                                    throw a new one in there and try it.
                                    Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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