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  • kevinm34232
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    • May 2012
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    #1

    Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

    As stated above it just flashes the red standby light every 2 seconds repeatedly, nothing else. Inspection of the PS board shows very high heat in the section to the left of the large caps between the heat sinks. Nothing obvious shorted. The large cap'(s) voltage is fluctuating from about 190v-220v while standby light flashes.

    Any ideas where to start with this one? Thank you.
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    Last edited by kevinm34232; 09-30-2017, 01:42 PM.
  • CapLeaker
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    • Dec 2014
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    #2
    Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

    Sounds like this:

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...hlight=samsung

    Can you give a exact description on what your tv is doing or not doing?

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    • kevinm34232
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      #3
      Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

      It looks like there's a short on the main board, the 5V line.. I jumped the PS-ON and everything is good there. Haven't made any progress trying to find the short though.
      I've tried freezing components but no luck there as it doesn't stay on long enough to get hot, and same with an external PS.. Any ideas?
      Last edited by kevinm34232; 10-01-2017, 08:51 AM.

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      • kevinm34232
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        #4
        Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

        Found the short on the B5V line but unfortunately did not fix the TV, all voltages present but TV does not turn on, no inverter_On from main board. Relay clicks every 40 secs. Thinking main CPU is bad.
        Last edited by kevinm34232; 10-01-2017, 10:07 AM.

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        • dskall
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          #5
          Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

          What is voltage between legs of main cap in standby and when you press power button
          I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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          • kevinm34232
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            #6
            Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

            When you first plug in you get 163V at caps for a couple secs, relay clicks and PS turns on, voltage now 390V. It will stay here for 40 secs and repeat cycle. Power button does nothing. This is common with these models with a faulty main board, I've seen many and not found a fault so I've chalked it up to the CPU.

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            • CapLeaker
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              #7
              Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

              Originally posted by kevinm34232
              Found the short on the B5V line but unfortunately did not fix the TV, all voltages present but TV does not turn on, no inverter_On from main board. Relay clicks every 40 secs. Thinking main CPU is bad.
              Me too

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              • kevinm34232
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                #8
                Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                For what it's worth, the shorted component was either C115 or C903. I took them both off at once so not sure which one it was.

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                • dskall
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                  So the fluctuating voltage of 190v-220v was not on main caps?
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                  • kevinm34232
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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                    That was before finding the shorted SMD cap on main board. ^^^^

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                    • kevinm34232
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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                      Can't resist the curiosity... Got a working board and tested the differences in voltages in this area.. Noticeably a problem between the 3.3v and 1.7v voltage regulators (see circled). Input/output on good one should be 3.3v/1.7v, but bad board is showing 2.5v/1.4v.

                      Is this worth trying to chase down? Every once in a while I see a quick backlight flash like it's trying to power on but then nothing..
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                      • dskall
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                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                        Does the regulator get hot? Might trace back your 3.3v. May have problem on 3.3v line
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                        • attainteddragon
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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                          you could lift it off of the board and see if your 3.3v comes back up.
                          WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                          • kevinm34232
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                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                            No it's not getting hot.. But does the other regulator 5>3.3v feeding the 3.3v to this one? If so there is a breakdown somewhere in that line unless it's being pulled down on the 1.7V line? Is that likely?

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                            • kevinm34232
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                              Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                              Originally posted by attainteddragon
                              you could lift it off of the board and see if your 3.3v comes back up.
                              That was my ? basically, so lift the 3.3V>1.7 regulator and see if input comes up to 3.3v?


                              Lifted input leg of the 3.3V>1.7 regulator but input voltage remains at 2.5V..
                              Last edited by kevinm34232; 10-04-2017, 11:31 PM.

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                              • attainteddragon
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                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                                so now start working your way back to the supply voltage. with a good working board it should be easier to do.

                                post a high res pic of the area if you want more help, though i can't view it for a bit. dam teenager ate all of the data and doesn't refresh for 5 days. :'(
                                WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                                • kevinm34232
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                                  Here's pics.. I'll start looking at it tomorrow. If anyone can look for tips please and thanks
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                                  • budm
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                                    I suspect that the output of 3.3V regulator is bad which it feeds the input of the 1.8V regulator IC.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • kevinm34232
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                                      I have 5v in and 3.3v out of that regulator.

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                                      • budm
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LN52A650A1FXZA dead, standby LED just flashes repeatedly

                                        Originally posted by kevinm34232
                                        I have 5v in and 3.3v out of that regulator.
                                        But some how it shows 2.5V at the input if the 1.8V regulator per your post:
                                        'Lifted input leg of the 3.3V>1.7 regulator but input voltage remains at 2.5V..'
                                        If you check the resistance between the 3.3V REG Output pin and the input pin of the 1.8V regulator, does it show < 1 Ohms?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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