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  • seve91
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 75
    • Italy

    #41
    Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

    tomorrow i will check and i will let you know, thanks.
    I notice also a black spot on the top of the screen...looks like a burner LED backlight..



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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

      I will not run the TV until more verification.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • seve91
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 75
        • Italy

        #43
        Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

        Originally posted by budm
        So what is the PFC Voltage now?
        ICS802 is part of the PFC Over Voltage protection that will not allow QS801 from coming on by bypassing the bias current for QS801 to GND.
        Originally posted by dick_barton
        As Budm has requested, what is the PFC voltage when the set is forced on by shorting emitter/collector?

        You need to check QS801. Youtube have plenty of video's that show you how to test it with your meter. The opto-isolator is fine and does not need to be replaced. It shorts the collector voltage to the base of QS801 when the Power ON/OFF input is taken high as it should.

        I would also replace the zener diode ZDS806 and diode DS806 connected to the base of QS801 as suggested by Thoma then your tv will be repaired properly.
        PFC-OUT is now 380V. To test QS801 is better to desolder it, isn't it?

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        • seve91
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 75
          • Italy

          #44
          Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

          desoldered QS801 and tested using multimeter in diode mode...it's ok.
          Tested also DS806 without desoldering, and it's good.
          Desoldered and tested ZDS806 using multimeter in diode mode...OK.

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6643
            • Wales

            #45
            Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

            Replace QS801. I'm pretty certain it's faulty.

            There's a supply into the collector and the opto-isolator is switched on and puts the voltage on the base.
            DS806 & ZDS806 I suspect are fine. When the voltage into ICS802 reaches 2.5V or greater it starts to block the voltage to the emitter of QS801 by reducing the voltage on the base. That's not the problem because the voltage is there so I don't believe ICS802 is at fault or the voltage being fed to ICS802 from R840, 841, 842, 843, 846, 847, 844 is greater than 2.5V so the PFC circuit is not over voltage.

            From the photo's above you also appear to have at least one faulty led that needs to be replaced.
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • seve91
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 75
              • Italy

              #46
              Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

              how do you say it's faulty? I tested only in diode mode...i usually test B-C and B-E, then i reverse the probes...first time OL, second time 0.6, so i supposed was fine.

              What about faulty led? is it possible to replace only one led? i have to find the right model disassembling the tv

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              • dick_barton
                Badcaps Legend
                • Aug 2015
                • 6643
                • Wales

                #47
                Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                Only a suggestion since I cannot think of what else it could be.

                There are plenty of Youtube video's showing you how to replace the leds.
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                • seve91
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 75
                  • Italy

                  #48
                  Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                  ok i will try to find the same model of BJT and replace it.
                  If it will solve the issue, then i have to learn a new method to test the transistors

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #49
                    Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                    Right now what dcv (in circuit when TV is turned on) do you have between E and B of that Transistor?
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • R_J
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 9551
                      • Canada

                      #50
                      Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                      Why not try shorting PCS802S/B (e-c) if the QS801, etc. are ok the tv should turn on.
                      Or try shorting QS871 e-c to see if the tv comes on
                      Power on/off controls QS871, If QS871 is turned on it connects PCS802S/A to ground causing its led (in the optocoupler) to light.

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                      • seve91
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 75
                        • Italy

                        #51
                        Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                        i'll try and let you know...i've disassembled the panel, and the TV got two stripes of LED named LMB-3200BM11. Can't find the replacement....i am able to desolder and resolder and smd led, but i need the exact model of that led
                        Last edited by seve91; 08-14-2017, 04:08 AM.

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                        • dick_barton
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 6643
                          • Wales

                          #52
                          Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                          Have a look at:-

                          http://www.ebay.it/itm/152536779696
                          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                          • seve91
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 75
                            • Italy

                            #53
                            Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                            Originally posted by budm
                            Right now what dcv (in circuit when TV is turned on) do you have between E and B of that Transistor?
                            with C-E shorted, is 0.15V


                            Originally posted by dick_barton
                            expired

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                            • seve91
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 75
                              • Italy

                              #54
                              Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight


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                              • Moreno83
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2008
                                • The Netherlands

                                #55
                                Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                                That is a burned LED!

                                Looks like a Osram Duris E5 LED....

                                https://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Powe...0_206_216.html

                                replace the faulty led.
                                I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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                                • seve91
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Oct 2013
                                  • 75
                                  • Italy

                                  #56
                                  Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                                  Originally posted by Moreno83
                                  That is a burned LED!

                                  Looks like a Osram Duris E5 LED....

                                  https://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Powe...0_206_216.html

                                  replace the faulty led.
                                  thanks looks like very similar...but which temperature? 2700k? 3000k? 5700k?

                                  and...how many? i suppose that they are connected in parallel, so it's not only one burned.

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                                  • Moreno83
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jun 2014
                                    • 2008
                                    • The Netherlands

                                    #57
                                    Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                                    They are connected in series. If 1 dies , the whole strip is off. ( Christmas lights ).

                                    So in this case it looks like you only need one. Not sure about the lumen , maybe someone else can answer that. Maybe it is in the service manual.....
                                    I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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                                    • Moreno83
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jun 2014
                                      • 2008
                                      • The Netherlands

                                      #58
                                      Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                                      The best thing you can do is google the led strip name!

                                      https://www.vareza-elektronik.de/pro...85&language=en
                                      I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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                                      • dskall
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Oct 2016
                                        • 2905
                                        • usa

                                        #59
                                        Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                                        Bright white which has a bluish tint. So I would say 5700K. Others will give yellowish tint
                                        I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                                        • seve91
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Oct 2013
                                          • 75
                                          • Italy

                                          #60
                                          Re: Samsung 32" power supply BN44-0351B no backlight

                                          thanks...i've ordered 10 of them, plus a 15V zener because i've lost the small one i've desoldered for testing

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