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  • PowerAmpFreak
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2010
    • 977
    • Sweden

    #1

    Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

    I got this curved Samsung LED model UE55H8005 which does not show a picture, sound and functions OK.

    Upon start-up, backlight turns on for one second (but no picture shows)

    Some tests done:
    Disconnecting T-CON either flatcable or connection between T-CON and PSU, the backlight will be on continously.
    Obviously something on T-CON doesn't want the backlight on.

    BL-ON signal is high whenever set is turned on, but PWM1-3 goes to zero and backlight turns off as a result.

    Blue control leds on T-CON is on.

    Question is: Is this a bad T-CON ?
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    Last edited by PowerAmpFreak; 01-21-2017, 08:14 AM.
  • Andrew F. Ali
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2014
    • 2450
    • Trinidad & Tobago

    #2
    Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

    Backlights issue I suspect.

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    • vinceroger69
      Badcaps Legend
      • Mar 2012
      • 6714
      • uk

      #3
      Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

      pwm 1-3 i wonder if thats the dimming control budm was posting in a thread last night regarding this

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

        They are PWM dimming controls, it has three control lines for Zone dimming based on the scene of the image..
        There is small connector on the T-CON board which I cannot clearly see, that connector may be used to control the zone dimming. Need closed up pictures of the T-CON (shopjimmy does not seem to have anything on this TV model).

        http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/t...UE55H8000STXXU

        "Samsung's latest Micro Dimming Ultimate technology gets the most from your TV and shows your entertainment at its best. The advanced dimming process enhances the contrast as well as the colour and detail. This means you see deeper black and purer white shades, as well as a clearer and more vivid picture than ever. It pushes your TV to the limit to deliver the ultimate in picture enhancement and optimisation"
        So more circuits for more chance of breaking.
        Last edited by budm; 01-21-2017, 02:01 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Diah
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2013
          • 6341
          • Germany

          #5
          Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

          Originally posted by Andrew F. Ali
          Backlights issue I suspect.
          +1 2014 TV with 90-100 % backlight degree will never survive till now

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          • ReeceyBurger123
            Never Give Up !
            • May 2014
            • 7325
            • Britain

            #6
            Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

            Guys read ! "Backlight stays on when mb is disconnected, something on tcon doesn't want bl on" so tcon has fault.
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            • Moreno83
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jun 2014
              • 2008
              • The Netherlands

              #7
              Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

              Haha Reece i was thinking the same!

              Curved tv and already dead. Unbelievable to be honest. Worst thing is that it's just a led tv with a lcd screen thats bend. Remove it and its just a lcd screen haha. Just a marketing trick , blegh.
              I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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              • Diah
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2013
                • 6341
                • Germany

                #8
                Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                Originally posted by Moreno83
                Haha Reece i was thinking the same!

                Curved tv and already dead. Unbelievable to be honest. Worst thing is that it's just a led tv with a lcd screen thats bend. Remove it and its just a lcd screen haha. Just a marketing trick , blegh.
                both of you wrong... read blue indicator on on T-CON , T-CON concocted to the same dimming circuit on PWB. backlight level 1 at start up (Logo) all on (in this case not all line turn on ) step 2 signal sync ( LED give error = T-CON OFF indicator ON..
                Last edited by Diah; 01-21-2017, 05:41 PM.

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                • Diah
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 6341
                  • Germany

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                  in General after end 2014 begin 2015 new policy issued for LED Indicator on PWB and T-CON to mark issue when LED back light in use. just for your info.

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                  • ReeceyBurger123
                    Never Give Up !
                    • May 2014
                    • 7325
                    • Britain

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                    Hmm interesting, wait and see what OP finds
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                    • Diah
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 6341
                      • Germany

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                      Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                      Hmm interesting, wait and see what OP finds
                      haha. did the OP have courage to take curve out of set !! Samy neither do this .. its suck point to buy new one so the thought before,,, disposable TV for 3 years
                      Last edited by Diah; 01-21-2017, 06:32 PM.

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                      • petehall347
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 4422
                        • United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                        i would take it back and say not fit for purpose ..

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                        • ReeceyBurger123
                          Never Give Up !
                          • May 2014
                          • 7325
                          • Britain

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                          Originally posted by Diah
                          haha. did the OP have courage to take curve out of set !! Samy neither do this .. its suck point to buy new one so the thought before,,, disposable TV for 3 years
                          Lol ikr 3 years is just sad designed to fail
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                          • Diah
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 6341
                            • Germany

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                            Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                            Lol ikr 3 years is just sad designed to fail
                            how long you would like to extended lol if user had backlight as it shipped to be 90% x 5 hours day ... or more... did you forget yours dad TV samy !! was ... you mentioned here before how much hours was on. after you repair it and looked to service mode.. LOL

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                              What is the power supply P/N? BN44-?????
                              LCD panel P/N????
                              Also need good clear and focused pictures of the power supply board and the T-CON board.
                              Last edited by budm; 01-21-2017, 09:28 PM.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                                Some tests done:
                                Disconnecting T-CON either flatcable or connection between T-CON and PSU, the backlight will be on continously.

                                The LED driver circuit has its own local protection circuit to detect Over Voltage due to open LED circuit, over current if LEDs or output draws too much. So if the LEDs have problem, or bad wiring for the LEDs then the LED will not stay on when running the self test. The LED driver also generates the ERROR signal if there is problem in the LED circuit and sends that to the main board.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Diah
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2013
                                  • 6341
                                  • Germany

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                                  just to look from the TV back hole to see there backlight never mean they are all fine. we remember at Toshiba 3D HD TV backlight one group get off. then all off, and when we plug out the 24V from PWB to LED driver board. the back light shining.. but still there are one group off.

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                                  • PowerAmpFreak
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 977
                                    • Sweden

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                                    Hi guys, not much to tell at this point. But, mainboard send LVDS and PWM dimming info to T-CON and from a small connector on T-CON to PSU to control backlight dimming.

                                    If I disconnect this small connector, the backlight will be all on but still no picture whatsoever. It can either mean the mainboard doesn't send any picture data to T-CON or that T-CON is faulty.

                                    I would like to know if this T-CON can be put into testmode? (pattern generation or similair) then I could judge if the mainboard needs replacement or not.

                                    Set lost picture during operation, sound and functions all OK
                                    Last edited by PowerAmpFreak; 01-23-2017, 12:45 AM.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                                      See post 15?
                                      I need to be able to read the pin labels of the connector of the power supply board that goes to the main board and also to the T-CON small connector so I can see what the wires from the T-CON to the power supply board are..
                                      Last edited by budm; 01-23-2017, 10:22 AM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

                                      • PowerAmpFreak
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 977
                                        • Sweden

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung curved UE55H8005 no picture

                                        Yes, budm, here's close up pics on both tcon and PSU.
                                        I turned it on again right now and fuse on tcon went and bad smell of nearby IC, so I think this case will be solved by changing tcon.

                                        PSU is BN44-00727A
                                        T-CON is BN95-01311A
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