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  • dick_barton
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
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    #21
    Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

    Hello Budm, I think I may have things backwards. Re-reading the posts #9 the PS_ON is 4.8V when the mainboard is disconnected.
    It may have to be taken low not high as I've suggested to activate the other supplies.
    Your thoughts please.
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • Malachi
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      • Dec 2015
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      #22
      Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

      Both fuses were good when I first started, that's the first thing I always check. It was the only thing I knew how to do when I started doing this.
      Now F8201 is blown.
      I just replaced it.
      Last edited by Malachi; 05-04-2016, 02:15 PM.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

        I think so too that is the case for these Plasma power supply board is active low for PS-ON, and active HIGH for Vs I believe. I think there are many threads for this board on B.C.
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/search...archid=6381299
        Blown fuse is then another problem to solve.
        Last edited by budm; 05-04-2016, 02:18 PM.
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        • Malachi
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          • Dec 2015
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          #24
          Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

          Originally posted by budm
          Did you hear the two relays click when using the resistor to force on?
          You also need command signals on the CN8002: VS_ON, RELAY_S???
          I get 5.1v on those 2 budm.

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
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            #25
            Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...o+VP422HDTV10A

            Post 9.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Malachi
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              • Dec 2015
              • 1077
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              #26
              Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

              I guess it's time to take the psu out and check the voltage on the caps that dick suggested?

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              • budm
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                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                See post 25.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Malachi
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 1077
                  • Usa

                  #28
                  Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                  I read that thread budm but my Vizio logo never turns white.
                  I did a forum search before posting. I also get a lot less Voltage reading than others with the same model in other threads?

                  Did I do the resister thing wrong?

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                  • Malachi
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                    • Dec 2015
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                    #29
                    Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                    Bad Ysus?

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                    • Malachi
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                      • Dec 2015
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                      #30
                      Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                      See post 9 of that thread? I don't have any of those voltages.
                      I can't turn the tv on, so voltages stay the same.
                      Last edited by Malachi; 05-04-2016, 02:27 PM.

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                      • Malachi
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                        • Dec 2015
                        • 1077
                        • Usa

                        #31
                        Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                        Originally posted by dick_barton
                        So there's definately no change when you connect 5VSB to PS_ON.

                        What is the voltage across the large capacitors C8103 & C8104. Its on the hot side of the mains supply so be very careful. Use your meter set to 600V and measure across the two pins of each of the capacitors.
                        I took the psu out of the tv. Laying upside down on a piece of cardboard. Plugged it in and measured each capacitor, voltage steadily climbing. After a few minutes I had less than 0.2V. Unless I'm reading my meter wrong.
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                        • Malachi
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                          • Dec 2015
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                          #32
                          Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                          The capacitance is about 446uf on each, in circuit.
                          Fuse F8201 blew again.
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                          Last edited by Malachi; 05-04-2016, 05:17 PM.

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                          • dick_barton
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 6642
                            • Wales

                            #33
                            Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                            That explains why you had no voltage on the caps. Why is the fuse is blowing? Can you see anything amiss on the board because that was not your original problem.
                            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                            • Malachi
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                              • Dec 2015
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                              #34
                              Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                              I couldn't tell anything visually unusual.

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                              • Malachi
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                                • Dec 2015
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                                #35
                                Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                                Receey, help me diagnose this psu before I start throwing parts at it.
                                What would make the fuse blow.
                                Also what kind of fuses are these? It's 4a 250v. I know there are slow blow and fast blow.
                                How do you tell the difference?

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                                • Malachi
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                                  • Dec 2015
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                                  I checked some of the 3 legged components that are screwed to the heat sinks. With my meter in diode mode.
                                  With the diodes, when I touch the two outer legs the meter beeps. When touching the middle one and an outside one, it doesn't beep.

                                  I also tested other 3 legged ones I'm not sure what they are called.
                                  They are labeled Q8101, Q8102, Q8103, Q8201 and Q8202 none of them beep. This is all in circuit.
                                  Last edited by Malachi; 05-05-2016, 03:45 PM. Reason: Typo on Q8101.

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                                  • budm
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                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                                    That fuse feeds many parts.

                                    http://www.shopjimmy.com/vizio-0940-...-pdp42-09.htm#

                                    Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
                                    Attached Files
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • Malachi
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                                      • Dec 2015
                                      • 1077
                                      • Usa

                                      #38
                                      Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                                      But I can't keep replacing them with out figuring out why the blow.
                                      I had already checked shopjimmy. It's the first place I go.
                                      What kind of fuse is that that I listed? I can buy a dozen. Lol
                                      I did trace where the fuse goes to in the back but don't really know what to look for.

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                                      • budm
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                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                                        'But I can't keep replacing them with out figuring out why the blow.'
                                        But you already find the shorted out components? Which one?

                                        'They are labeled Q8191, Q8102, Q8103, Q8201 and Q8202 none of them beep"
                                        BTW, the meter will beep even if the resistance is as high as 100 Ohms on some meter. That is why I use Ohm mode to look for shorts or very low Ohm reading.
                                        Last edited by budm; 05-05-2016, 03:47 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • Malachi
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Dec 2015
                                          • 1077
                                          • Usa

                                          #40
                                          Re: Vizio VP422 won't turn on.

                                          So that means they are shorted?
                                          What are those? Can I buy them from digikey?
                                          Last edited by Malachi; 05-05-2016, 03:45 PM.

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