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  • eztiger12
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    • Apr 2016
    • 44
    • Canada

    #1

    Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

    I will try to give you as much information as possible in order to figure out the issue I have presently.

    Like the tilt says its a Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA.
    Manufactured October 2009 in mint condition.

    The problem: I got sound but no picture!

    I would have to open and close the TV once or twice in order to get a picture and the TV worked normal.
    Later.... the on and off became 5 - 6 time and then nothing at all......no picture no matter how many time I turn it on or off.

    I can turn on the TV now ...the TOSHIBA sign lights up, the sound comes on but still no pictures.

    I have done the flash light test in a dark room but I still cannot see a picture.

    I can see light when I have the back cover off when TV turned on and I can see the front screen go front pitch black to lighter black or very dark grey.

    I have been doing a lot of reading but I m just getting more confused on what it might be.
    I dont want to change pieces just for the sake of it.

    Thanks

    I would really appreciate it..........
  • CapLeaker
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    • Dec 2014
    • 8146
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

    Originally posted by eztiger12
    I dont want to change pieces just for the sake of it.
    In order to get around that, you would have to provide clear, high res, straight shot pictures of your PSU and main board. Then you need a digital multi meter, so we can measure things and determent the fault.

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    • eztiger12
      Member
      • Apr 2016
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      #3
      Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

      Ok will do.......I ll try to get that done as soon as possible. If anyone else wants to kick in feel free.

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      • eztiger12
        Member
        • Apr 2016
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        #4
        Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

        I have taken several picture and attached them to this post to help solve the problem. I thought I had this one solved and replaced the T-com but nothing doing. I does the exact same thing no change.

        What I have checked so far was the standby light lights up in front of the TV.
        Standby volts is at 5 volts on the multimeter.
        There is 24 volts coming go of the board to the backlight. (I can see the light go on as well once the back cover is off).

        I checked the rectifier output and its at 106.5 steady ( saw on youtube that maybe it should be at 160V but not sure if he was working on the same model).

        Rectifier output for the a/c is 117.8

        I am really hope for everyone input so I can solve this issue.
        I also checked the fuses and they look fine.

        Anxious to get some replies.

        Thanks in advance.
        Attached Files

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        • eztiger12
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          • Apr 2016
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          #5
          Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

          If any other pictures are needed please let me know.
          Attached Files

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #6
            Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

            The set looks as though it's been worked on before looking at the amount of heatsink compound around some of the components.

            What voltage do you have on both sides of the white ceramic fuse on the Tcon board
            What volatge do you have on the 12VLCD pins.
            Attached Files
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • dick_barton
              Badcaps Legend
              • Aug 2015
              • 6642
              • Wales

              #7
              Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

              The mains does seem low. Is one of the large caps (C821) starting to bow on top?
              What is the dc voltage across the legs of C820 & C821 which are rated at 450V dc.
              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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              • eztiger12
                Member
                • Apr 2016
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                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture (Pix of boards added)

                Just wanted to in the title that I have added pictures of my boards in order to get some help......sorry and Thanks

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                • Diah
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 6363
                  • Germany

                  #9
                  Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                  let your room dark and use light torch on the screen and tell us if you can see some effect of picture or Menu any els

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                  • CapLeaker
                    Leaking Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 8146
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                    are the back lights on and no picture, or you got no picture because the back lights are off?

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                      "I checked the rectifier output and its at 106.5 steady ( saw on youtube that maybe it should be at 160V but not sure if he was working on the same model)."
                      Where did you put the black probe of the meter, the chassis or at the negative leg of the cap? It looks like you are using the chassis as the GND.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • eztiger12
                        Member
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 44
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                        #12
                        Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                        To answer Dick Barton ......

                        if you refer to the 4th picture you can see C821 and I noticed an ever so slight bow compared to the other large ones. But like I said minimal.
                        How do I check this ...."the voltage across the legs of C820 & C821 which are rated at 450V dc."

                        Budm
                        I put a probe on each leg.

                        Capleaker / Diah
                        Backlights are on but there is no picture.

                        Dick Barton
                        help me out here plz....

                        Where do I check the voltage on both sides of the white ceramic fuse on the Tcon board. Where is or which is the ceramic fuse?

                        where do i check the voltage on the 12VLCD pins.

                        Please guide me and Ill supply the results ......I am not a pro but I manage to do a lot with instructions, youtube, the internet and a lot of reading on this forum.....lol

                        Thanks guys for the input so far.

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                        • eztiger12
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                          • Apr 2016
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                          #13
                          Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                          Originally posted by budm
                          "I checked the rectifier output and its at 106.5 steady ( saw on youtube that maybe it should be at 160V but not sure if he was working on the same model)."
                          Where did you put the black probe of the meter, the chassis or at the negative leg of the cap? It looks like you are using the chassis as the GND.
                          If you enlarge image 6 or 8 on the rectifier, I got that reading by putting a probe on each of the squiggle lines ......a probe on each one of those interior legs.

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                          • eztiger12
                            Member
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 44
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                            Originally posted by dick_barton
                            The set looks as though it's been worked on before looking at the amount of heatsink compound around some of the components.

                            What voltage do you have on both sides of the white ceramic fuse on the Tcon board
                            What volatge do you have on the 12VLCD pins.
                            Just wanted to add that the TV was bought brand new in a sealed box and never had an issue with it until now. Not sure if that changes anything.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                              The ~ pins are the Line and Neutral AC input pins for the bridge rectifier and it should show 120VAC.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • eztiger12
                                Member
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 44
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                                Originally posted by budm
                                The ~ pins are the Line and Neutral AC input pins for the bridge rectifier and it should show 120VAC.
                                Sorry ....my bad...your totally right. I get a reading of 117.8 on those pins.
                                But I get a reading of 106.5 on the pins just on the outside of those that are identified with a "-" and "+" signs.

                                Sorry about that.

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                                • CapLeaker
                                  Leaking Member
                                  • Dec 2014
                                  • 8146
                                  • Canada

                                  #17
                                  Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                                  For those you did set the meter to measure DC volage? 120x1.414=169.68V
                                  Last edited by CapLeaker; 05-07-2016, 07:21 PM.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                                    You should measure right between the +/- legs of the main filter cap.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • eztiger12
                                      Member
                                      • Apr 2016
                                      • 44
                                      • Canada

                                      #19
                                      Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                                      Originally posted by CapLeaker
                                      For those you did set the meter to measure DC volage? 120x1.414=169.68V
                                      Yes sir I did .........but I will double check tomorrow but Im 99 percent sure.

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                                      • eztiger12
                                        Member
                                        • Apr 2016
                                        • 44
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: Toshiba 55ZV650U REGZA sound but no picture

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        You should measure right between the +/- legs of the main filter cap.
                                        Budm.........you got to help me out here. I am not sure what exactly you want me to check. Can to guide me please. I would like to more tests on it tomorrow morning even though its Mothers day........not sure if the wife will aprouve lol

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