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  • RobII
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    • Mar 2016
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    #1

    Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

    Hello TV repair guru's!! My Philips 42" TV has an issue. There is sound and you can see a picture on the screen with a flashlight but there is no backlight. The backlight does not come on at all. I found another post with a LG TV that had the exact same issue with an inverter board from ShopJimmy that was listed as compatible with my Philips. One problem is I did not see a part number or link for that inverter board.

    I did see this seems to be a common problem with LG/Philips inverter boards. Is there something I should be checking before I start replacing components?

    I haven't opened the case up yet but plan on doing that this weekend.

    Thanks in advance!!
    Last edited by RobII; 04-01-2016, 04:18 PM.
  • ReeceyBurger123
    Never Give Up !
    • May 2014
    • 7325
    • Britain

    #2
    Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

    What inverter does it use can you upload images ? If its the one im thinking of normally the caps for it fail which blows the controller Ic.
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    • RobII
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      #3
      Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

      I will do that tomorrow. Thank you!!

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      • ReeceyBurger123
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        #4
        Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

        No worries, let us know
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        • thoma
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          • Sep 2012
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          • Germany

          #5
          Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

          http://www.ebay.de/itm/LG-Philips-In...-/141847603843

          http://www.forumazur.com/en/infos/te...philips-lcd-tv

          http://www.ohmsupplies.co.uk/epages/...Products/KIT63

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          • RobII
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            • Mar 2016
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            #6
            Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

            Removed the back cover. SSB looks good but a bit dusty. Removed the covers for the master and slave inverters and yeah, caps on both are popped.

            @thoma, I looked at the links you provided specifically the second one. I did not see any damage to any of the components other than the caps.

            @ReeceyBurger123, Pics are attached. At the very least I am going to replace the caps since they are cheap. What's the worst that could happen, I'm left with where I started?

            There is also a suspect cap on the SSB near the inverter outputs. Attached as well.

            Any other suggestions before I tear into it?

            Thanks again for the assistance!!!
            Attached Files

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            • RobII
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              • Mar 2016
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              #7
              Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

              Another quick update. Fuse MF1 is open on the master inverter. I checked the MOSFETS and none are showing a short or open.

              Does anyone have a link to the schematics or the part number for fuse MF1?

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                '10A' as printed on the body as sen on the pictures, made by LittleFuse.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • RobII
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                  • Mar 2016
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                  #9
                  Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                  These?

                  http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...3lRveogD6i8%3d

                  Originally posted by budm
                  '10A' as printed on the body as sen on the pictures, made by LittleFuse.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                    It looks like it. But are you sure there is no short on the board? The two caps showing low ESR and capacitance?
                    Last edited by budm; 04-02-2016, 01:27 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • RobII
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                      • Mar 2016
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                      #11
                      Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                      So far I have found no short. I checked the MOSFET's on both inverter boards (in circuit) and there is no shorts between gate and drain on any of them.

                      Edit: The two caps on both boards are shot. Domed and leaking.

                      Originally posted by budm
                      It looks like it. But are you sure there is no short on the board? The two caps showing low ESR and capacitance?

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
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                        #12
                        Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                        Originally posted by RobII
                        So far I have found no short. I checked the MOSFET's on both inverter boards (in circuit) and there is no shorts between gate and drain on any of them.

                        Edit: The two caps on both boards are shot. Domed and leaking.
                        Sam for Source and Drain too, no short?
                        Bad caps can cause the circuit to draws lots of current due to high ripple voltage and also cause switching frequency to run at the wrong frequency.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • tvtimmy
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1160
                          • usa

                          #13
                          Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                          Change the bad caps and the fuse. I fixed one this way. Still going.................................

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                          • RobII
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                            • Mar 2016
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                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                            Double checked and correct, no shorts.

                            Pics of components removed.

                            Originally posted by budm
                            Sam for Source and Drain too, no short?
                            Bad caps can cause the circuit to draws lots of current due to high ripple voltage and also cause switching frequency to run at the wrong frequency.
                            Attached Files

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                            • RobII
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                              • Mar 2016
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                              #15
                              Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                              Another quick update and question. I removed a couple of suspect caps from the power supply board. One looks like it exploded out the bottom.

                              My question, right next to the suspect caps are L203 and L204. I can't quite figure out what they are. Both tested short but since I have no idea what they are.... Any clue? Pic's attached
                              Attached Files

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                              • thoma
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 268
                                • Germany

                                #16
                                Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                                https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...39dfa5950e.pdf

                                WAIT UNTIL GET MANUAL APPEARS!!!!!!

                                regards thoma!
                                Last edited by thoma; 04-03-2016, 11:40 AM.

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                                • RobII
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                                  • Mar 2016
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                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                                  After talking to one of the techs where I work, they informed me that the mystery components are inductors.

                                  I have placed a Mouser order so now the waiting game.

                                  Thanks for all the help so far. I'll update when I get the parts.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...7&d=1459694689
                                    The cap under the heatsink should be replaced also, you can see bare aluminum, looks like it got hot too.
                                    Last edited by budm; 04-04-2016, 12:22 PM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • RobII
                                      Member
                                      • Mar 2016
                                      • 34
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                                      I was debating on whether to replace it or not. Visually it looked ok but I should have checked it a little more thoroughly.

                                      Thank you sir!!

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Philips 42PFL5332D/37 no backlight

                                        That caps under the heatsink look to be part of the PI filter to work in conjunction with those two small caps that have blown bottom, so more likely that the small caps had to do all the works due to bad caps under that heatsink..
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

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