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  • chris1sr
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    • Mar 2016
    • 16
    • USA

    #1

    42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

    Hi everyone I have a 42LG20-UM LCD TV and I need help Diagnosing picture problem. When the TV is first turned on everything works fine but after a few minutes the pictures slowly losses its contrast and becomes washed out. Also the power light flashes green 6 times at startup. I have started testing the power supply and everything seems fine.i have attached pictures of the components and believe the problem is either the power supply, main board or the T-Con what do you think?
    Thanks
    Chris
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

    Looks like bad Gamma Voltage, remove the Silicone thermal pad from the IC on the top right of the T-CON board to see if it is AS15 or AS19.
    You can also take the DCV readings of the Gamma Voltages at the test points on the board.
    Last edited by budm; 03-29-2016, 09:59 AM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • CapLeaker
      Leaking Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 8327
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

      Looks to me the same what budm said.

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      • chris1sr
        Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 16
        • USA

        #4
        Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

        Thank you budm and CapLeaker for your quick response. Yes it is an AS15, I had to put on two pairs of glasses to read it. how can I take the DCV readings of the Gamma Voltages at the test points on the board? What should they read and does this mean the T-Con is bad?

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        • chris1sr
          Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 16
          • USA

          #5
          Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

          T-Con picture attached
          Attached Files
          Last edited by chris1sr; 03-29-2016, 10:48 AM. Reason: add picture

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

            OK, AS15 Gamma ref IC.
            Does it get to be to hot to touch when the screen washed out?
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • chris1sr
              Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 16
              • USA

              #7
              Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

              No, I waited five minutes the screen washed out in about two the AS15 just felt slightly warm,
              Thanks
              Chris

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              • CapLeaker
                Leaking Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 8327
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                You can replace that AS-15 IC if you comfortable doing this, or replace the T-con.

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                • mmartell
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 3189
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                  Record the VGMAxx dc voltages and post here like..

                  VGMA22 12.2v
                  VGMA21 11.9v
                  .
                  .
                  .
                  VGMA1 3.2v

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                  • chris1sr
                    Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 16
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                    Thanks Mmartell

                    Just got back to this, hear are the voltages they seemed to go up a little as the TV warmed up:

                    VGMA1 14.40
                    VGMA2 14.35
                    VGMA3 14.37
                    VGMA4 14.05
                    VGMA5 13.83
                    VGMA6 13.77
                    VGMA7 13.75
                    VGMA8 13.72
                    VGMA9 13.58
                    VGMA10 13.34
                    VGMA11 13.14
                    VGMA12 6.36
                    VGMA13 6.23
                    VGMA14 6.05
                    VGMA15 4.51
                    VGMA16 4.25
                    VGMA17 3.71
                    VGMA18 2.90
                    VGMA19 2.23
                    VGMA20 .52
                    VGMA21 .42
                    VGMA22 .29

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                    • ReeceyBurger123
                      Never Give Up !
                      • May 2014
                      • 7325
                      • Britain

                      #11
                      Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                      Yep your As15 has failed. Try changing the Ic.
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                      • chris1sr
                        Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 16
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                        Is there a good site to buy a T-Con Board?

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                        • ReeceyBurger123
                          Never Give Up !
                          • May 2014
                          • 7325
                          • Britain

                          #13
                          Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                          Ebay I mainly use if not check google etc.
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                          • Markus1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 80
                            • Australia

                            #14
                            Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                            Did you replace T-Con board?
                            Did it solve the problem?

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                              Originally posted by Markus1
                              Did you replace T-Con board?
                              Did it solve the problem?
                              Same problem as OP?
                              Did you test the GAMMA Voltages?
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Markus1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 80
                                • Australia

                                #16
                                Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                                Yep your As15 has failed. Try changing the Ic.
                                ReeceyBurger123 - Could you please explain what actually indicates in the VGMA readings above that the AS15 has failed?
                                The voltages show continuous decrease in values, as it should be, I believe.
                                Although there is a bigger jump between VGMA11 and 12. Would this be enough to say that the AS15 is bad?

                                I am not questioning your assessment here, just trying to learn a bit more.

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                                • diif
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2014
                                  • 6978
                                  • England

                                  #17
                                  Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                                  Originally posted by Markus1
                                  ReeceyBurger123 - Could you please explain what actually indicates in the VGMA readings above that the AS15 has failed?
                                  The voltages show continuous decrease in values, as it should be, I believe.
                                  Although there is a bigger jump between VGMA11 and 12. Would this be enough to say that the AS15 is bad?

                                  I am not questioning your assessment here, just trying to learn a bit more.
                                  The voltages have to decrease evenly. There is a spreadsheet and more info in this thread.
                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35301

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                                  • mmartell
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Oct 2013
                                    • 3189
                                    • Canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                                    Originally posted by Markus1
                                    The voltages show continuous decrease in values, as it should be, I believe.
                                    Although there is a bigger jump between VGMA11 and 12.
                                    Bigger jump than the OP's ? Then yes, yours is bad as well.

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                                    • Markus1
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jul 2013
                                      • 80
                                      • Australia

                                      #19
                                      Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      Same problem as OP?
                                      Did you test the GAMMA Voltages?
                                      Different TV model, similar problem with a pale, washed out picture.
                                      Gamma voltages as follows;
                                      1 15.31V
                                      2 15.26V
                                      6 14.10V
                                      7 13.92V
                                      8 13.84V
                                      10 13.40V
                                      11 13.32V
                                      12 6.63V
                                      13 6.37V
                                      15 4.69V
                                      16 4.39V
                                      17 3.86V
                                      21 0.50V
                                      22 0.36V

                                      There is a wider jump between VGAM 11 and 12. In fact Very similar to that shown by OP in post #10.
                                      Not sure if that jump is too big though.

                                      The chip AS15F (with heat transferring pad removed) is warm and certainly not too hot to touch.
                                      Supply voltage (on F1 SMD fuse) is 11.6 V.

                                      So, is it the chip or anything else on the T-Con?

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                                      • CapLeaker
                                        Leaking Member
                                        • Dec 2014
                                        • 8327
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: 42LG20-UM LCD TV washed out picture

                                        The as-15.

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