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  • Bibu
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 88
    • Italy

    #121
    Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

    I tested the voltage in the connector 1p11 when i ha e black screen and violet led:

    8. +12VA= 0v
    7. +5V2=5v
    6. STANDBY=4v
    5. BOOST=0v
    4. GND=0v
    3. LIGHT OM/OFF =1v
    2. POWER GOOD =0v
    1. DIM-CONTROL=0v

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    • CapLeaker
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      • Dec 2014
      • 8146
      • Canada

      #122
      Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

      Cording to this, your PSU is not turning on.

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      • Bibu
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 88
        • Italy

        #123
        Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

        Originally posted by CapLeaker
        Cording to this, your PSU is not turning on.
        And this is clear... But Why?

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        • CapLeaker
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          • Dec 2014
          • 8146
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          #124
          Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

          I think the STANDBY is the PSon and that has 4V on it. That comes from the main board. I bet, when you try to turn on the TV, you do not get any boosted voltage on the main filter capacitor. No boosted voltage, no 12V, no backlights. If the PFC circuit is working, you should see about 400V DC on the main filter cap. If you only get like 320V DC, the booster (PFC) isn't working. Just be very careful on the primary circuit you are connected to the mains voltage.
          Last edited by CapLeaker; 04-06-2016, 05:01 PM.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #125
            Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

            That STANDBY pin is the PS-ON but it is ACTIVE LOW, that pin has to be <1V to turn on the power relay on the main power supply board to supply the AC to the main bridge rectifier for the PFC and then main SMPS section. You can look at the diagram on how the STNDBY signal is used.
            Right now the signal from the main board is stuck HIGH due to what I do not know, beside not sending the PS-ON it is also not sending the DIM signal either so something really went out this time.
            Last edited by budm; 04-06-2016, 05:10 PM.
            Never stop learning
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            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
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            • CapLeaker
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              • Dec 2014
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              #126
              Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

              Didn't see any schematic for this yet. To be fair, I didn't read though all these pages either. Maybe I'll do that in a bit.

              So I downloaded the schematic budm, but the first 2 pages are total blurry on my iPad. The last 2 pages are fine as kind. I guess I have to see it on my PC tomorrow.
              Last edited by CapLeaker; 04-06-2016, 06:26 PM.

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              • Bibu
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2016
                • 88
                • Italy

                #127
                Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

                Originally posted by CapLeaker
                Didn't see any schematic for this yet. To be fair, I didn't read though all these pages either. Maybe I'll do that in a bit.

                So I downloaded the schematic budm, but the first 2 pages are total blurry on my iPad. The last 2 pages are fine as kind. I guess I have to see it on my PC tomorrow.
                Sto the relay arrive 5v on the two pin, i must look better the ma in board, and search qhy arrive 5 volt in the standby

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                • CapLeaker
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                  • Dec 2014
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                  #128
                  Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

                  So... I have to go after budm saying this is active low PSon. I have to look at that schematic on my PC. For some reason the first 2 pages on the schematic are blurry on my iPad.
                  I would disconnect everything but the backlights on the power supply, then force the power supply on. Make sure the main board is disconnected. Check the voltage rails.
                  You reported a 4V on the STBY pin 6. If the PSU is active low, then the main board didn't send any PSon to turn the power supply on.

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                  • Bibu
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 88
                    • Italy

                    #129
                    Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

                    Originally posted by CapLeaker
                    So... I have to go after budm saying this is active low PSon. I have to look at that schematic on my PC. For some reason the first 2 pages on the schematic are blurry on my iPad.
                    I would disconnect everything but the backlights on the power supply, then force the power supply on. Make sure the main board is disconnected. Check the voltage rails.
                    You reported a 4V on the STBY pin 6. If the PSU is active low, then the main board didn't send any PSon to turn the power supply on.
                    With all connected at the two pin it the relay arrive 5v dc,this meaning that the some V is sending by the ssb. The old problem Was that the ssb didn't sent the 5v to the psu (One diode burn), this time is different

                    For forcing the psu what pin i must jumper?

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #130
                      Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

                      Have the connector between the main board and the power supply board back in place, then you will ground the STANDBY PIN6 to ground through 100 Ohms resistor.
                      The problem before was that you did not have the 5V STNADBY to power up the power relay of the main power supply board, but this time you have the standby power supply but some how the main board is not sending the command signal to turn on the power relay.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • Bibu
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 88
                        • Italy

                        #131
                        Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

                        Originally posted by budm
                        Have the connector between the main board and the power supply board back in place, then you will ground the STANDBY PIN6 to ground through 100 Ohms resistor.
                        The problem before was that you did not have the 5V STNADBY to power up the power relay of the main power supply board, but this time you have the standby power supply but some how the main board is not sending the command signal to turn on the power relay.
                        Thanks budm, but id i disconnetto the ma in board, where the psu take the 5v to start the relay?

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #132
                          Re: tv lcd Philips 42pfl9632d/10 Power board ko

                          You will have all the connectors back in place.
                          Post 130 "Have the connector between the main board and the power supply board back in place"
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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