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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
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    #21
    Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

    The readings look bad, especially this one:
    Diode mode
    Pin 1 =
    Pin 2 = Black or Red
    Pin 3 = Red or Black
    Pin 4 =

    reading = 0.l

    That would have caused the main ac fuse to blow since pin 2 and 3 are the AC input pins.
    Please pull the bridge off the board and test it again.

    This one is also wrong:
    Pin 1 = Black
    Pin 2 =
    Pin 3 =
    Pin 4 = Red

    reading = .478
    Last edited by budm; 11-17-2015, 04:45 PM.
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    • zogthegreat
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      • Nov 2015
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      #22
      Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

      OK, after trying to desolder without desoldering wick , I finally got it off.

      Here are my results, I tested in diode mode on my tester:



      Red lead to pin:

      Pin 1 = .0L
      Pin 2 = .0L
      Pin 3 = .0L
      Pin 4 = .924

      Black lead to pin:

      Pin 1 = .923
      Pin 2 = .0L
      Pin 3 = .0L
      Pin 4 = .0L
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      • budm
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        • Feb 2010
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        #23
        Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

        Originally posted by zogthegreat
        OK, after trying to desolder without desoldering wick , I finally got it off.

        Here are my results, I tested in diode mode on my tester:



        Red lead to pin:

        Pin 1 = .0L
        Pin 2 = .0L
        Pin 3 = .0L
        Pin 4 = .924

        Black lead to pin:

        Pin 1 = .923
        Pin 2 = .0L
        Pin 3 = .0L
        Pin 4 = .0L
        I do not understand your readings, it has 4 diodes inside so what you are reporting does not make sense to me.
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        • zogthegreat
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          #24
          Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light



          Sorry, does this make more sense?

          Pin 1 = .0L - Red to pin 1 - Black to pin 4
          Pin 2 = .0L - Red to pin 2 - Black to pin 3
          Pin 3 = .0L - Red to pin 3 - Black to pin 2
          Pin 4 = .924 - Red to pin 4 - Black to pin 1

          The only time I got any reading was when I touch the black lead to pin 4 and the red lead to pin 1. Reversing the leads, (Red to pin 1 - Black to pin 4), I get nothing.
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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
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            #25
            Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

            As shown in my diagram, you can see 4 diodes so you should be able to measure each diode inside the bridge.
            I.E. diode mode
            Testing diode D2: Blk on 1, Red on 2 = 0.6
            Testing diode D1: Blk on 1, Red on 3 = 0.6
            Testing diode D4: Blk on 2, Red on 4 = 0.6
            Testing diode D3: Blk on 3, Red on 4 = 0.6
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            • zogthegreat
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              #26
              Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

              Hers what I get:

              Testing diode D2: Blk on 1, Red on 2 = 0.502
              Testing diode D1: Blk on 1, Red on 3 = 0.503
              Testing diode D4: Blk on 2, Red on 4 = 0.500
              Testing diode D3: Blk on 3, Red on 4 = 0.497
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              • budm
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                #27
                Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                They are good. Now measure the two inner pads (pin 2 and pin 3) on the board (diode is still off the board) to see if it still show 0.1
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                • zogthegreat
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                  #28
                  Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                  I get .0L off the two inner pins on the board, no matter which way I put the probes.
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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
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                    #29
                    Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                    Well, I do not know how you get this reading before then:
                    Diode mode
                    Pin 1 =
                    Pin 2 = Black or Red
                    Pin 3 = Red or Black
                    Pin 4 =

                    reading = 0.l

                    Put the bridge back in place and then measure the DCV between the two legs of the main filter cap again. It should show 160~170VDC.
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                    • zogthegreat
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                      #30
                      Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                      When I measure between the filter, (red arrows), I'm still getting 0.25vdc

                      [/QUOTE]

                      Originally posted by budm
                      Well, I do not know how you get this reading before then:
                      Diode mode
                      Pin 1 =
                      Pin 2 = Black or Red
                      Pin 3 = Red or Black
                      Pin 4 =

                      reading = 0.l
                      I not sure either. I'm trying to be as methodological as possible in my measurement. I have test my meter against several batteries and my coach's 12vdc and 120vac systems and it seems to be accurate.
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                      • budm
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                        • Feb 2010
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                        #31
                        Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                        There are two diodes that you need to check (I doubt that both of them are bad but check them any way).
                        Then check the resistance between:
                        A & B =
                        A & C =
                        D & F =
                        E & F =
                        G & H =

                        Something is not testing right.
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                        • freakaftr8
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                          • Oct 2012
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                          #32
                          Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                          I wonder if that diode could be open inline with the one side going to the main filter. I can't read the number but it's definitely a three-digit its right above the filter cap on the right side

                          Lol Budm you beat me to it!
                          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                          • budm
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                            • Feb 2010
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                            #33
                            Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                            There are two of them so both of them (one of them is fed through the PFC Inductor) will have to be bad.
                            Last edited by budm; 11-18-2015, 10:29 PM.
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                            • zogthegreat
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                              #34
                              Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                              Originally posted by budm
                              There are two diodes that you need to check (I doubt that both of them are bad but check them any way).
                              Then check the resistance between:
                              A & B =
                              A & C =
                              D & F =
                              E & F =
                              G & H =

                              Something is not testing right.
                              Sorry, but I'm not understanding, which two diodes do I need to check? Is the two marked with the red arrows?

                              Do I check the resistance between the other ones with or with out power?

                              Thanks!
                              Last edited by zogthegreat; 11-18-2015, 11:28 PM.
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                              • freakaftr8
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                                #35
                                Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                                The ones he has marked as diodes and red letters B to D and C to E. Test these in diode mode on your meter. You should read almost infinite or O.L. on one side and have a reading on the other
                                Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                • budm
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                                  #36
                                  Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                                  'Do I check the resistance between the other ones with or with out power?;' I am surprised that you ask if the power is needed to be applied or not when making the resistance measurement. Did you do the diode test with power applied too?
                                  And those resistance testing between the points are needed to find out if you do have connections all the way to the filter cap. At this point it looks to be measurement errors to me.

                                  This may explain why you get these readings on post 20:

                                  Pin 1 =
                                  Pin 2 = Black or Red
                                  Pin 3 = Red or Black
                                  Pin 4 =

                                  reading = 0.l
                                  Last edited by budm; 11-19-2015, 10:03 AM.
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                                  • zogthegreat
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                                    • Nov 2015
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                                    #37
                                    Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    'Do I check the resistance between the other ones with or with out power?;' I am surprised that you ask if the power is needed to be applied or not when making the resistance measurement. Did you do the diode test with power applied too?
                                    And those resistance testing between the points are needed to find out if you do have connections all the way to the filter cap. At this point it looks to be measurement errors to me.

                                    This may explain why you get these readings on post 20:

                                    Pin 1 =
                                    Pin 2 = Black or Red
                                    Pin 3 = Red or Black
                                    Pin 4 =

                                    reading = 0.l
                                    Hi budm,

                                    No, there was no AC power when I did the diode test.

                                    Here are the results from my latest test:

                                    A & B = 00.9
                                    A & C = 00.9
                                    D & F = 00.9
                                    E & F = 00.9
                                    G & H = 00.9

                                    I used the resistance setting on my meter to do the test, no AC power.

                                    Just to clarify, I am a total noob to this. Although my son has a degree in Electronic Technology, and a BA in Computer Engineering, my talents lie elsewhere. Whereas changing a bad cap or two to fix a monitor is relatively simple, this is much more advance for me and I am trying to learn to the best of my abilities. Hence me asking what the best way to perform the test. I just wanted you to know what my level of "expertise" in this area is, i.e. minimal at best. That's why I try to do as many test as possible so that you guys here on the forum will have as much data as possible to work with.
                                    Technology, computers, taking things apart, (sometimes putting them back together)

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                                    • budm
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                                      #38
                                      Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                                      Originally posted by zogthegreat
                                      Hi budm,

                                      No, there was no AC power when I did the diode test.

                                      Here are the results from my latest test:

                                      A & B = 00.9
                                      A & C = 00.9
                                      D & F = 00.9
                                      E & F = 00.9
                                      G & H = 00.9

                                      I used the resistance setting on my meter to do the test, no AC power.

                                      Just to clarify, I am a total noob to this. Although my son has a degree in Electronic Technology, and a BA in Computer Engineering, my talents lie elsewhere. Whereas changing a bad cap or two to fix a monitor is relatively simple, this is much more advance for me and I am trying to learn to the best of my abilities. Hence me asking what the best way to perform the test. I just wanted you to know what my level of "expertise" in this area is, i.e. minimal at best. That's why I try to do as many test as possible so that you guys here on the forum will have as much data as possible to work with.
                                      OK, so you do have continuities on those connections, then you need to test those two diodes in the red circles I have marked.
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                                      • zogthegreat
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                                        #39
                                        Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        you need to test those two diodes in the red circles I have marked.
                                        Opps! Sorry, I forgot to give you that info. I get .391 off of both of them. Diode mode, no power.
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                                        • budm
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                                          #40
                                          Re: SONY KDL-32NL140 no power light

                                          Originally posted by zogthegreat
                                          Opps! Sorry, I forgot to give you that info. I get .391 off of both of them. Diode mode, no power.
                                          Well, the whole thing does not make any sense right now since you do have 120VAC feeding the two AC input pins of the bridge rectifier, and you do have two good diodes and good connections all the way to the main filter cap but yet you do not get any DCV on the main cap.
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                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
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