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  • Microbot118
    New Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 3
    • United States

    #181
    Re: LF501EM5F No Power, Chirping/Beeping Transformer

    Originally posted by citywidetvtech
    C3214 is shorted on these main boards its underneath L3201 above the black ribbon connector. It took me 5 hours and a hot air gun but finally cleared the short from P-ON+21V to ground. Hopefully nobody else has to go through that, I can still hear the diode check beep in my sleep. Sets will power on now, I haven't found a replacement yet but will keep you posted.

    Put small like sized cap from part graveyard in place of C3214 and is working perfect again.
    +1 on C3214. I have a model LF551EM5 that wouldn't power up, power supply board chirped when plugged in. Sure enough C3214 was shorted. Different main board than OP but similar layout. Swapped with a cap from a junk samsung phone main board and it's back in action.

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    • akk944
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 60
      • USA

      #182
      Re: LF501EM5F No Power, Chirping/Beeping Transformer

      Microbot,

      Did you remove C3214 to check for the short... any way to check it without removing it? I still have this TV sitting in my living room.

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      • Microbot118
        New Member
        • Mar 2017
        • 3
        • United States

        #183
        Re: LF501EM5F No Power, Chirping/Beeping Transformer

        Originally posted by akk944
        Microbot,

        Did you remove C3214 to check for the short... any way to check it without removing it? I still have this TV sitting in my living room.
        I tested it in place as a preliminary check. It read 0 ohms, but as Bud mentioned earlier there are other caps parallel to this one. If one reads short they all read short until the culprit is removed.

        Once I removed c3214, I verified that it was short off the board and the other remaining caps read correctly in circuit.

        If you are new to (de)soldering I would highly recommend getting some flux and braid, and clean well with isopropyl alcohol before plugging it back in.

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        • akk944
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 60
          • USA

          #184
          Re: LF501EM5F No Power, Chirping/Beeping Transformer

          Originally posted by Microbot118
          I tested it in place as a preliminary check. It read 0 ohms, but as Bud mentioned earlier there are other caps parallel to this one. If one reads short they all read short until the culprit is removed.

          Once I removed c3214, I verified that it was short off the board and the other remaining caps read correctly in circuit.

          If you are new to (de)soldering I would highly recommend getting some flux and braid, and clean well with isopropyl alcohol before plugging it back in.
          Okay! I got it the C3214 cap out. Now I am getting some resistance off this cap off the board.. does that matter?

          C3208 which is still on the board and in parallel with the C3214 I removed was previously coming up with no resistance. Now it has some resistance on a higher setting of my multimeter. What other troubleshooting can I do to confirm and where can I source a replacement cap from?

          Thanks!
          Last edited by akk944; 03-18-2021, 04:49 PM. Reason: typos

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          • Microbot118
            New Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 3
            • United States

            #185
            Re: LF501EM5F No Power, Chirping/Beeping Transformer

            Originally posted by akk944
            Okay! I got it the C3214 cap out. Now I am getting some resistance off this cap off the board.. does that matter?
            C3208 which is still on the board and in parallel with the C3214 I removed was previously coming up with no resistance. Now it has some resistance on a higher setting of my multimeter. What other troubleshooting can I do to confirm and where can I source a replacement cap from?

            Thanks!
            Sorry for the late reply, just turned notifications on so I should be more punctual.

            It's hard to say definitively if the resistance on the removed c3214 matters, but if parallel caps are no longer shorted it looks like progress to me. If you want to check that the short is really gone, the easiest way would be to clean the board to get any residual flux removed, then measure the resistance between the 2 unoccupied pads from c3214.

            Rather than trying to source a new cap, I really just found a visually similar looking cap with approximately the same footprint from a junk board and it worked.

            However, this was a free tv for me so there was no risk involved. I'm not sure what your situation is but I wouldn't recommend this method if this is for a customer or something.

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            • jason123
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2015
              • 1056
              • USA

              #186
              Re: LF501EM5F No Power, Chirping/Beeping Transformer

              Originally posted by citywidetvtech
              C3214 is shorted on these main boards its underneath L3201 above the black ribbon connector. It took me 5 hours and a hot air gun but finally cleared the short from P-ON+21V to ground. Hopefully nobody else has to go through that, I can still hear the diode check beep in my sleep. Sets will power on now, I haven't found a replacement yet but will keep you posted.

              Put small like sized cap from part graveyard in place of C3214 and is working perfect again.
              You saved me hours of troubleshooting. Replaced the cap and the TV fired right up. Thank you very much!

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