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  • ricosavy
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    • Jul 2012
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    #1

    Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

    I have a toshiba led tv that will turn on and have a backlight but no image. How can i test it to see if my tcon board is bad or if i have a bad main board.any input is appreciated thanks.
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  • ricosavy
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    #2
    Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

    Here pic board
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    • ricosavy
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      #3
      Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

      Here pic power supply
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      • ricosavy
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        #4
        Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

        Tcon board
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        • CapLeaker
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          • Dec 2014
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          #5
          Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

          Pretty easy to check with an oscilloscope the LVDS, while turning on and off the menu on the TV all the time.

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
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            #6
            Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

            At least check and see if the main board is supplying the Voltage to run the T-CON.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • ricosavy
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              • Jul 2012
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              #7
              Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

              I seen 12volts on the tcon fuse(budm)
              I dont have a oscilloscope that is can go to 100mhz just one that can do 20mhz not high enough.In future i will purchase one for now i can only check voltages(capleaker)

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              • ricosavy
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                • Jul 2012
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                #8
                Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                i replaced the tcon board still just getting backlight but no image on tv any ideas what to check

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                • Peter Chiu
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 145
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                  #9
                  Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                  If you didn't see any LVDS signal on scope,open the LED screen penal....... U will find water stain (on one or two green boards with tab connect to LCD screen) clean with tooth brush and acetone .One of my friend DID change resistor and fuse and fix the TV.

                  Most-likely you have is Toshiba 47TL515U LED TV and you definitely need is the Main Board 75023298. ......

                  Pls give us a feedback, if you fix the TV......Good luck......
                  Last edited by Peter Chiu; 04-07-2015, 11:32 AM.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
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                    #10
                    Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                    The OP does not have the scope.
                    "I seen 12volts on the tcon fuse(budm)
                    I dont have a oscilloscope that is can go to 100mhz just one that can do 20mhz not high enough.In future i will purchase one for now i can only check voltages(capleaker)"
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Peter Chiu
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                      • Dec 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                      My Mexican friend (Jose Perez) teach me, put LVDS cable on the tongue and you can feel the signal....... But don't try at home ........

                      Next project 1: I will make LVDS tester in the future.
                      Next project 2: LVDS to VGA converter ,LVDS signal on your computer monitor.
                      Last edited by Peter Chiu; 04-07-2015, 12:04 PM.

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                      • CapLeaker
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                        • Dec 2014
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                        #12
                        Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                        [QUOTE=Peter Chiu;547915]My Mexican friend (Jose Perez) teach me, put LVDS cable on the tongue and you can feel the signal....... But don't try at home ........

                        QUOTE]

                        I am guessing that's how your friend checks the main filter cap on the power supply to see if the PFC is working or not...

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                        • budm
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                          • Feb 2010
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                          #13
                          Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                          He must have very sensitive tongue to detect 350mV! or just B.S.

                          From SONY T-CON info:
                          The LVDS transmitter contains a circuit to serialize the parallel data. The parallel video information along with
                          sync and clocking data are transmitted via twisted line pairs. Depending on the logic level, current is sent along
                          one or the other of the twisted pair of wires. The receiving end of the wires is loaded with a resistor (usually
                          around 100 to 120 ohms). The receiver detects the polarity of the voltage drop across the resistor to determine
                          the logic level. The current level swings in the wire are about 3ma with a voltage differential of around 350mv.
                          This allows for transmission of the video signal with minimal EMI.

                          "Next project 2: LVDS to VGA converter ,LVDS signal on your computer monitor."
                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/2213100...lpid=82&chn=ps
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                          Last edited by budm; 04-07-2015, 04:45 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • Peter Chiu
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 145
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                            I also heard people says {My father used have a TV repair shop , he fix TV with screw driver.}........more than one people said that ...........(CRT TV has 30 kV )....This is a murder.....

                            I could never understand........
                            Last edited by Peter Chiu; 04-07-2015, 05:41 PM.

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                            • ricosavy
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                              • Jul 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                              I have replaced the main board ,and tcon board still same problem no image just backlight.any ideas

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                              • CapLeaker
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                                • Dec 2014
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                                #16
                                Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                                bad panel?

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                                • Hamie
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Apr 2014
                                  • 1383
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                                  If you remove one ribbon from the tcon do you get anything?
                                  Then reverse the process.

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                                  • ricosavy
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                                    I will try it

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                                    • ricosavy
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                                      Ok discounted the right side the left was dark no backlight the right had back light then disconnected the left side had back light all the tv and could see some line on right side

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                                      • CapLeaker
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Toshiba 47tl5154 no image just backlight

                                        Is that model number correct? 47tl5154
                                        I can't find a thing about it. So recheck. I see that there is another ribbon cable between the inverter and the t-con.
                                        Last edited by CapLeaker; 09-16-2015, 03:15 PM.

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