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  • dcaron614
    Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 30
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    #1

    Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

    Hello, I have a Samsung Ln52A650A1F and I'm not sure what could be the issue with this, The picture is only bad at bottom of screen but stretches across the whole screen but seems really bad on lower right side seems blurry red. I have tried resetting all cables from the Tcon still no luck. Any ideas or is this just a non fix TV/panel ?
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

    Does it change if you try flexing the LCD panel?
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • dcaron614
      Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 30
      • US

      #3
      Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

      No, but the screen seems to clear up slightly for a moment when 1st turned after being off for a long period of time

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      • selldoor
        Slow Learner
        • Dec 2010
        • 7870

        #4
        Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

        Could be water liquid damage even someone cleaning with cleaning fluid - it runs down and
        corrodes/shorts the wiring at the bottom of the panel.
        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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        • Hobby 1
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 86

          #5
          Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

          Tab bond issue. Just fixed the 46 inch version of this model a couple of weeks ago.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

            The SAMSUNG/SONY in those time periods are know for having tab bonding issue.
            This is what involved in dealing with tab bond problem.
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ht=tab+bonding

            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ht=tab+bonding

            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ht=tab+bonding
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • dcaron614
              Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 30
              • US

              #7
              Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

              Hmmm, thanks a lot guys. I will work on the panel tomorrow, where can I buy the Silicone thermal interface pad from. I'm here in Ohio

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              • AFajitas
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 183
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

                I would tear it down and confirm tab bonding first. You can even use electrical tape to fix it temporarily.

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                • dcaron614
                  Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 30
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

                  No luck on the top tabs, rubbed my finger across them and I didn't notice any change, but when I rubbed my finger across the lower tab or whatever that's called on the bottom right side where the problem is i did see it flicker/change but not enough to correct the problem. so is it safe to safe the TV panel is beyond repair or did I not check the top tabs correctly?

                  this is the lil tab on the bottom right side
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                  • AFajitas
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 183
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

                    That looks just like a tab bonding issue I had on a Sony. It took me some time and a few tries to actually find the problem tab, so don't give up. Sometimes you have to apply pressure to the tab while turning the TV off and back on to fix it, but you should notice some flickering or change when you find the problem tab.

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                    • dcaron614
                      Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 30
                      • US

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

                      Ok Thank you Afajitas, I really do appreciate all you guys help ....I will keep at it. Beer break time right now thou...lol

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                      • Hobby 1
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 86

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung Ln52A650A1Fxza bad picture botton of screen

                        I agree with AFajitas. Sometimes you have to turn power off and then on to see if the problem is corrected. Don't rub the tab. Apply pressure carefully. Find the magic spot. I have fixed sets with 4 horizontal bands on the screen doing it this way. If the timing signals get messed up, you have to cycle power to the set. I have had better success with hard vinyl bumpers, about 1/8 inch thick and then use the screws on the screen frame to apply pressure for that tab. Stick them to the frame, not the tab or the screen.

                        I usually leave the set on the base and tilt it backwards by placing a 2 x 4 piece of wood under the front of the base so the screen does not slide onto the floor. This makes it easier than laying the set flat on its back. Fastest time to find the magic spot was under 10 seconds. The longest was several days. And some just don't want to be fixed.

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