samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

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  • nomoresonys
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    • Jan 2013
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    #121
    Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

    no continuity between bridge+ and main cap+.

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    • Diah
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      • Feb 2013
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      #122
      Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

      you dont think its time now to order new glasses ..lol
      each time u work on tiny things you kill tv

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      • nomoresonys
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        • Jan 2013
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        #123
        Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

        oh I think i killed it a while ago lol, i don't know if i should be getting continuity on bridge+ and main cap+ theres a diode between them, of course i was looking at some work on a led tv, so probably different setup.

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        • nomoresonys
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          • Jan 2013
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          #124
          Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

          it must be the pfc ic is screwed, I lost my boosted voltage.

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          • nomoresonys
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            • Jan 2013
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            #125
            Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

            any way of knowing what kind of ohms i should get on the legs of the pfc ic? or how to test it?

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            • nomoresonys
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              #126
              Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

              im checking all the tiny resistors caps n diodes, they're testing ok.

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              • Diah
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                • Feb 2013
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                #127
                Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                you have open R now at pfc... since it was clicking after u disconect MB from PCB.. like there are load / short at LED

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                • nomoresonys
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                  • Jan 2013
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                  #128
                  Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                  it only clicked with mainboard connected, but now that the boosted pfc is gone there is no clicking every 5 seconds connected or not, like i had before with the boosted pfc.
                  Last edited by nomoresonys; 06-06-2022, 06:13 PM.

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                  • nomoresonys
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                    • Jan 2013
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                    #129
                    Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                    Originally posted by Diah
                    you have open R now at pfc... since it was clicking after u disconect MB from PCB.. like there are load / short at LED
                    did not understand this, you mean backlight led? this one is ccfl.

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                    • nomoresonys
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                      • Jan 2013
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                      #130
                      Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                      can anyone answer the question, why the dc voltage on the bridge rectifier, thats + and - the 2 outside legs is 106, it was 106 when the backlight was staying on for 15 minutes, the ac coming in on the bridge rec. is 120 as it should be, is this normal or does it point to a problem???

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                      • nomoresonys
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                        • Jan 2013
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                        #131
                        Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                        can it be just a weak faulty bridge? all the diodes check good in it.

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                        • nomoresonys
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                          • Jan 2013
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                          #132
                          Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                          ok, now have the clicking twice every 5 seconds back, gonna call that progress.

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                          • angelos
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                            • Dec 2012
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                            • South Africa

                            #133
                            Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                            Wow Nomoresonys you surely have perseverance. You started this thread in 2014 and you are still at it. I know nobody out there that would do that. Cudos to you.

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                            • nomoresonys
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                              • Jan 2013
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                              #134
                              Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                              Lol, that would point to insanity wouldn't it? no, I fixed it with a mainboard in early 215 then it just started acting up again lately, its old as dirt but these early samsungs have a very good picture, otherwise I wouldnt bother with it, kind of heavy and clunky compared to newer stuff. I like the puzzle aspect of it but so far its getting the better of me.
                              Last edited by nomoresonys; 06-09-2022, 03:58 AM.

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                              • nomoresonys
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                                • Jan 2013
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                                #135
                                Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                                the samsung I'm using in place of this one is a un model edge lit tv and it pales in comparison no matter how much calibration is done, much lighter and sleeker looking and no mercury BUT worse picture quality.

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                                • vinceroger69
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                                  • Mar 2012
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                                  #136
                                  Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                                  Originally posted by nomoresonys
                                  well this one crapped out again, getting the clicking of the relay every 5 seconds, fixed it once with electro caps replacement and reflow of solder joints, lasted a few months now its back same thing, clicks every 5 seconds. When powerboard is unhooked from mainboard clicking stops but backlights don't come on, when heating area of ics801 for a minute or two tv comes on for 15 minutes or so no clicking, replaced or checked all caps and resistors in that area, anyone know if heating ics801 is making it work for that 15 minutes or should heating it have no effect on the ic as in letting the tv work for that 15 minutes??: sj pic of powerboard: https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...ight-inverter/
                                  just been reading this thread on the shop jimmy picture top right where someone has marked those capacitors with red marker have you tested all of those caps in that area for uf and esr as these do fail maybe heating that ic is also heating these caps and lowering the esr tempory

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                                  • nomoresonys
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                                    • Jan 2013
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                                    #137
                                    Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                                    yes, I was getting the bad cap clicking syndrome, changed those 8 electros out and it worked fine for several months then the connector from powerboard to main burnt out, think it was just from old age, replaced that and touched up the joints worked fine for a few more months. Started clicking again, could get it to stop and the backlights would be on for 15 minutes or so by heating the area of ICS801, then was messing around testing the three 8 pin ics on top side of board while powered while testing one of them tv went on and off, then tested main cap and saw I lost the boosted pfc, found QI802 shorted from gate to source, switched it out with K4087 https://www.alldatasheet.com/view.js...K4087&sField=1, which I think is close but not sure. Now still have no boosted pfc and heating that area of ICS801 doesn't get the backlights to come on anymore.
                                    Last edited by nomoresonys; 06-09-2022, 05:02 AM.

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                                    • nomoresonys
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                                      • Jan 2013
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                                      #138
                                      Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                                      CNI804 does have 12 volts as indicated at the connector.

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                                      • nomoresonys
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                                        • Jan 2013
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                                        #139
                                        Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                                        took out ds805, testing the thru holes I only get 59 ohms, is that too low?

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                                        • nomoresonys
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                                          • Jan 2013
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                                          #140
                                          Re: samsung LN-S4051D diagnal lines

                                          will AR S1 80 diode replace 1n4005? they are same size physically, can not seem to find info on ar s1 80.

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