50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #21
    Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

    The panel in this set is made by Panasonic.

    It could be a digital/control board fault or a main board fault. I am looking at how the glitch changes around the channel/input name in the corner, so I'd suggest the main board could actually be at fault.

    Quite hard to tell on a Panasonic based panel as the OEM'd sets don't have test patterns built in.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • mmartell
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2013
      • 3189
      • Canada

      #22
      Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

      Hmm looks like you have a Panasonic set with this board or a variation of it:

      http://www.shopjimmy.com/panasonic-t...es-d-board.htm

      $71. Do you have a digital multimeter to check some basic voltages ?

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      • Stevie B
        Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 32
        • USA

        #23
        Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

        Are you referring to the small board behind the main board?
        Is that the control board?
        I didn't catch that tom66 had referred to it.

        Its Maxent MX5020-HPM.

        So you're saying the hidden board is the suspect?

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        • Stevie B
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          • Oct 2014
          • 32
          • USA

          #24
          Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

          Is the link that mmartell posted the main or the control board?
          Is it a good idea to just verify the part number and replace it?

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          • Stevie B
            Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 32
            • USA

            #25
            Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

            I have a fluke for any voltage measurements.
            But I need to get info, I don't have any video electronic experience.

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            • freakaftr8
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2012
              • 3743
              • USA

              #26
              Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

              Freeze spray the 3 16v 220 mfd capacitors to the left of the main processor on the mainboard. See if problem gets better or worse. Then try a lil heat too. Seen this multiple times on this model. Yes it uses panasonic guts. They put out a decent picture
              Last edited by freakaftr8; 12-27-2014, 12:07 AM.
              Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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              • mmartell
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2013
                • 3189
                • Canada

                #27
                Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                Ya sorry, I was suspecting control board, that's the one hidden beneath the main board but tom and freak are much more experts in these matters so definitely follow their recommendations.

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                • Stevie B
                  Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 32
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                  The main board is out of stock at shop jimmy.
                  The part number is the same except for the suffix. On mine it is ---, the replacement is -1-.
                  I assume its just a newer version of the same part.
                  In the meantime, I'll pick up some freeze spray.
                  What is a good way to apply heat? A hair dryer?

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #29
                    Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                    Hairdryer works well for the heat.
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    • ademim
                      Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 28
                      • Portugal

                      #30
                      Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                      Originally posted by mmartell
                      The last board you uncovered is the digital board and the one tom66 is referring to. I would heed his advice and replace it. I had a similar "interference" problem in a Pioneer plasma which he suggested I replace and it was the problem.

                      Who makes this tv ? You need to get the part number from the control board.
                      it looks like its a panasonic(look at the chip on the board)...

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                      • ademim
                        Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 28
                        • Portugal

                        #31
                        Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                        hi i also have a very bad problem which i think is the panel itself as you can see in the videos ,its a samsung ps50a451p1 50" plasma.
                        i hope im not doing something wrong by posting my problem here but due to the title i thought it would be a good place.

                        http://youtu.be/omRKU3-Xqkg
                        http://youtu.be/ayNn7tij5Qo

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                        • mmartell
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                          • Oct 2013
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                          #32
                          Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                          Originally posted by ademim
                          it looks like its a panasonic(look at the chip on the board)...
                          You can see in post #22 where I figured that out about seven minutes after the post you quoted but thanks for the heads up.

                          And start your own thread since it's a different make/model.

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                          • Alastair E
                            Chief Womble
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1963
                            • U.K.

                            #33
                            Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                            Originally posted by ademim
                            it looks like its a panasonic(look at the chip on the board)...

                            Doesn't mean a thing!--Set makers will use whatever is available and has the features they want.

                            Set I have at the moment has at least two visible Sony chips on its mainboard--yet, the name on the front is--

                            Panasonic.
                            TELEFIX

                            How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                            http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                            PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #34
                              Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                              Originally posted by ademim
                              hi i also have a very bad problem which i think is the panel itself as you can see in the videos ,its a samsung ps50a451p1 50" plasma.
                              i hope im not doing something wrong by posting my problem here but due to the title i thought it would be a good place.

                              http://youtu.be/omRKU3-Xqkg
                              http://youtu.be/ayNn7tij5Qo
                              Definitely panel. Your unplugging / plugging in of the Va connector may well have contributed to the demise of the panel. These panels are very sensitive to this.
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • ademim
                                Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 28
                                • Portugal

                                #35
                                Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                                Originally posted by Alastair E
                                Doesn't mean a thing!--Set makers will use whatever is available and has the features they want.

                                Set I have at the moment has at least two visible Sony chips on its mainboard--yet, the name on the front is--

                                Panasonic.
                                hi again and sorry for butting in with my problem on thius thread i will start my own ,and i know what you are talking about when makers use other brand materials for making lets say a logic board or in cell phones.

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                                • Stevie B
                                  Member
                                  • Oct 2014
                                  • 32
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                                  So then regarding my issue with trying to get a main board replacement.
                                  At shop jimmy and other sites, when I search for QPWB11578Y1G I get results for YPWB or DPWB instead.
                                  Is this the same thing or do I need to get QPWB specifically?

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                                  • nomoresonys
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jan 2013
                                    • 12206
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                                    #37
                                    Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                                    is that your model number?, if not try putting your model number in the shopjimmy search if thats where your searching at.
                                    Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                                    • nomoresonys
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                                      • Jan 2013
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                                      #38
                                      Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                                      if its there, it should say what panel numbers it will work with, in the description.
                                      Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                                      • freakaftr8
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Oct 2012
                                        • 3743
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                                        I may have this board. Give me a bit to look at it when I get home.
                                        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                        • freakaftr8
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Oct 2012
                                          • 3743
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: 50" Plama vertical lines - repairable??

                                          But did you first try the hairdryer method on those electrolytic capacitors on the left of the processor on the mainboard yet?
                                          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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