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  • kevinm34232
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    • May 2012
    • 1884
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    #1

    Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

    When I first plugged it in I heard it click then nothing, no standy light or blink code. Now it's not doing anything. I checked most obvious parts with no sign of a short. I'm getting 120VAC thru the fuse, but I am only seeing about 4VAC between the center pins of the rectifier. Not much info out there on this model, any one have any thoughts?
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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
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    #2
    Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...X85#post341781
    See the link for the service manual.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • kevinm34232
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      • May 2012
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      #3
      Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

      Thanks Bud, I found that thread earlier but that file is not there anymore. I did find the SM and uploaded to Tom's SM email on the site, if that email is wrong Tom let me know please.

      Here is a screen shot from the schematic, I get 120VAC and 165VDC at D7001, but the large rectifier D7003 is where I get 4VAC and 8VDC.
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      Last edited by kevinm34232; 09-29-2014, 05:34 PM.

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      • budm
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        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
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        #4
        Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

        If the relay is not on, you will not get AC feeding the D7003 bridge.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • kevinm34232
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          • May 2012
          • 1884
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

          OK I see that now. So I'm not getting the 5v standby though I'm getting 1.3V.

          Bud that SM you show is a different model, this is the correct one, power supply on pages 36 and 37.

          Last edited by kevinm34232; 09-29-2014, 06:16 PM.

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          • kevinm34232
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            • May 2012
            • 1884
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            #6
            Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

            Just disconnected the main board connector and the 5V standby comes up to normal, so a problem on the main board right??

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            • budm
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              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

              The one in your link matches the chassis?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • kevinm34232
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                • May 2012
                • 1884
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                Well the PS is the same, the main board is a TNPH0757S which is different. Ill have to check the main board # in the other SM.

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                • budm
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                  OK, let me download the one from your link and see what the test points to use.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • kevinm34232
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                    • May 2012
                    • 1884
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                    5vstby is here, something on the main board dragging it down
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                    • budm
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                      • Feb 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                      can you use 10 Ohms resistor as a 1/2A load to see if will maintain 5V?
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                      Comment

                      • kevinm34232
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                        • May 2012
                        • 1884
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                        Is that just a 10 ohms resistor attached to 5VSTBY on the PS side but not to anything else?

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                        • kevinm34232
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                          #13
                          Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                          I hooked up my bench power supply and set to 5V and connected to STB5V on main board (removed from TV). I'm just a little unsure of the readings on the PS. The current keeps going from 100mA up to about 400mA and then repeats, is that going into protect from overload?

                          While it's on I checked the voltages on the DC-DC and got 3.3V and 1.8V from the 2 regulators, so they seem to be working normally.

                          Does the PS fluctuating current indicate a problem? What should I expect to see for a load? Any tips from here?

                          Could this still be a problem with the PS? I wasn't clear on how to test with a load on it.
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                          Last edited by kevinm34232; 10-04-2014, 11:21 AM.

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                            400mA sounds ok for a standby rail, at least to start. How much current can your power supply provide? Did you try testing the PSU board like budm suggested, using the resistor?
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • kevinm34232
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                              #15
                              Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                              Its a 30V 5A power supply. Should it be fluctuating like that though from 100mA to 400+ and then back down, it may be going higher but happening too fast to see.

                              No I didn't try the resistor I don't know what to, just solder one end of it to the STB5V pin without the main board connected? The other end of the resistor is open? I have a 100 ohm resistor handy will that work?
                              Last edited by kevinm34232; 10-04-2014, 12:55 PM.

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                              • tom66
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                                • Apr 2011
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                                #16
                                Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                                What will a resistor do if the other end is open...? You need to connect it to ground. The resistor is load for the PSU, it will get hot. It needs to be around 10 ohms, 5W rated.

                                Make sure you've set the current limit on your power supply up from the default.
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                                • kevinm34232
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                                  Ok thanks I found one in an old Y-SUS board.

                                  For this test I'll be plugging the TV into AC without the main board connected, and checking the standby voltage correct?

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                                  • kevinm34232
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                                    OK so normal voltage without the load is 4.85V, when resistor attached I saw it go up to 3-4V briefly and then drop to 0.13V

                                    Did I set it up correctly?
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                                    • tom66
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                                      Yep. That's correct, this seems to indicate the PSU cannot supply 500mA load, so I would consider it may be faulty.
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                                      • kevinm34232
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Panasonic TC-32LX85 Dead

                                        Well that saved me a lot of time thanks for that process and thanks Bud for suggesting it.

                                        This is the first time I've run into this problem, is there something in general that would cause it to drop under load?

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