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  • snipersquad100
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2013
    • 297
    • uk

    #1

    Back light problem

    HI I've got an ALBA LCD32880HDF in with a back light going off after 30 secs or so. voltages are a bit of a problem as their not marked on the pcb. When it starts up im getting a 24v, 12v, 5.3v, 3.3volts when the back light goes off the 24v drops to 18v. So im not sure if I have a PSU or an inverter problem or something else.
    thanks
  • snipersquad100
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2013
    • 297
    • uk

    #2
    Re: Back light problem

    anyone

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Back light problem

      Good clear pictures of the back of the TV and the boards so we can see what we are dealing with?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • snipersquad100
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Nov 2013
        • 297
        • uk

        #4
        Re: Back light problem

        here's some pics
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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #5
          Re: Back light problem

          Pictures are nor really clear enough - need to be able to read the component numbers on the boards. When it is on can you tell if any bulbs are out (one corner dimmer etc.)
          We also need a pic of the inverter board and possibly the Tcon.
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Back light problem

            I need good clear pictures of that power supply/inverter board combo top and bottom side. That high voltage inverter transformer is not likely to be running from 24V power supply but more likely from the PFC Voltage booster circuit that supplies about 380~400VDC to drive that transformer through MOSFETs. I cannot tell until I get to see better pictures to figure out how this board works.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • snipersquad100
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Nov 2013
              • 297
              • uk

              #7
              Re: Back light problem

              Sorry had to use flash as its dark. If you need better ones I'll have to take em in the morning. Thanks
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              • snipersquad100
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Nov 2013
                • 297
                • uk

                #8
                Re: Back light problem

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Back light problem

                  Did you take the screen apart?
                  Pictures of the bottom side of the power supply board? I need to be able to see good clear pictures of the components on the bottom side of power supply board to see how the inverter transformer being driven.
                  This is going to be tough, there are so many pins on the power supply/inverter board connector that goes back to the main board.
                  Last edited by budm; 12-19-2013, 03:04 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • snipersquad100
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 297
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: Back light problem

                    yes screen is apart, give me have hour to do the underside of the pcb.
                    yes this is a tuff one, Ive never worked on a psu/inv combo b4. if I could be sure its the psu/inv and not the back light or something else id buy a new board.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Back light problem

                      I am not sure if the 17IPS10-2 SCH is close to your -03 or not, but it may help.
                      I download this from TOM66 website.
                      Attached Files
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Back light problem

                        This PSU uses 150V for backlight inverter. I would check what this does when fault occurs.
                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                        • snipersquad100
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 297
                          • uk

                          #13
                          Re: Back light problem

                          Hope you can piece it together.
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                          • snipersquad100
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 297
                            • uk

                            #14
                            Re: Back light problem

                            where do I prob for the 150v?

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: Back light problem

                              We don't need board layouts at the moment with, uh... "schematics" (if you could call Vestel's attempt one.) Check 150V. Across C164, I think.... (schematic completely unclear.)
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • snipersquad100
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 297
                                • uk

                                #16
                                Re: Back light problem

                                Ok will do. Any more pics needed b4 I put it back together.

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: Back light problem

                                  Should be OK for now.
                                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                  • snipersquad100
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Nov 2013
                                    • 297
                                    • uk

                                    #18
                                    Re: Back light problem

                                    I cant see c164 to save my life, on that schematic its a 220uf/200v should stand out like a sor thumb.

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                                    • snipersquad100
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Nov 2013
                                      • 297
                                      • uk

                                      #19
                                      Re: Back light problem

                                      this board is vestel 17IPS10-3 the schematic is 10-2.
                                      wait just found c164 and its unpopulated cap.

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                                      • snipersquad100
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Nov 2013
                                        • 297
                                        • uk

                                        #20
                                        Re: Back light problem

                                        is it worth getting the reading across the pads.

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