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  • jettboat
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 63
    • USA

    #1

    kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

    I tested the screen seems to be ok it shows up while a bright lights directed at it, also did resistor to ground to remove the 6 blink inv err, still get no back light . The problem seems to be with power supply 395 pfc volts supplying the inverter boards is only 8.5 not enough to supply the inverters properly? I tested components on both inverter boards and power supply. They all seem good. I would like to at least get it narrowed down to the individual board that's at fault. I have fixed 60 or so lcd & plasmas mostly to component level but this ones frying my brain. Anyone with incite/help on this model? I do have access to o-scope, signal generator etc. I have the basic multi meter, esr, variable 15vdc ps at home. Its my first time posting pic hope there ok from my phone.
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  • jettboat
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 63
    • USA

    #2
    Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

    I forgot to add that I get all voltages @ back light on 1.82v, dimmer 1.71v and all other connections seem good how printed on the boards, but pfc's 395v going to the inverter boards being very low. I have the service manual also, It states the inverter boards are the issue but, I find no problems on them at all. Was thinking of removing the pfc connectors then inject the 395v into them to see if there ok but I can't do this until Monday @ school & if its wise to do this or not?

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

      Are you getting only 8.5V at those two large 450VDC cap also?
      Service manual:
      http://elektrotanya.com/?q=showresul...oria=&kat2=all
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • jettboat
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 63
        • USA

        #4
        Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

        yes that's all

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        • jettboat
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 63
          • USA

          #5
          Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

          Whoops! I was using the wrong ground. I do get 392 @ the pfc output now I need to make sure I didn't test wrong on other things.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

            OK, that's better. Training manual for EX1 chassis.
            Attached Files
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • jettboat
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 63
              • USA

              #7
              Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

              Thanks budm I had the manual already but it made me look at it again. Looking at the manual it is pointing me toward the main board, the inv err is normally high I thought it was supposed to be low like the bal err, whoops. I'm also only getting 1.8 for bl on and it should be 3.3vdc. after testing all the other inverter circuits and they were good had me lost. time to order a new board, I will update if it is good to go with a new one.

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              • jettboat
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 63
                • USA

                #8
                Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

                Well the training manual lead me wrong its not the main bu board. I'm going to have to test the output of the inverters going to the balancer boards Monday. The trouble shooting flow chart was wrong! go figure well guess if it was easy every body would do it. lol On to the Panasonic sc repair for now.
                Last edited by jettboat; 11-09-2013, 03:13 PM. Reason: spelling

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                • jettboat
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 63
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

                  Ok here was the issue a 16v 100mf cap was shorted (odd) on the d5 inverter board tied to a IC on the back as there's only a couple caps there they all looked good, replace them all & another TV was saved.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: kdl-52w4100 6 blink error issue need help

                    Glad to hear it is fixed.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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