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  • oddbodd
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 121
    • UK

    #61
    Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

    I've now replaced IC1009 with the LM1117DT-3.3 from CPC.

    The readings are...

    pin 1. = 0.000
    pin 2. = 3.1 to 3.3
    pin 3. = 4.1 to 4.9

    ...which looks better than in post#42. The readings are still jumping around, and still no power on light.

    The other 3 ICs remain the same.

    The voltages across the the connector pins are now...

    1 [B-DIM] 0.0
    2 [15V] 13.2 to 14.2 unstable
    3 GND
    4 GND
    5 GND
    6 [5.2V] 4.2 to 4.9 unstable
    7 [5.2V] 4.2 to 4.9 unstable
    8 [DCR] 3.8 to 4.2 unstable
    9 [ON/OFF] 0.0

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    • selldoor
      Slow Learner
      • Dec 2010
      • 7870

      #62
      Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

      As all your voltages appear unstable I wonder if your meter is ok.
      Perhaps test it on a few things battery - car battery mains (carefully)

      whilst being careful Test the big cap again - is that steady
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      • oddbodd
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 121
        • UK

        #63
        Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

        It does test steady on some things. The big cap tested at a steady 336v today.

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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #64
          Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

          OK dont know if you have tried this

          re solder F301 if not already done so connect it all up except the main board.

          Have you got a 3v battery? or something that will give you 3vdc.
          or if you got a big resistor to drain the caps.
          Either connect the 3v neg to ground and pos to on/off then switch on and see if the backlights come on OR use the resistor and connect the 5v on the connector to the on/off on the connector using the resistor and switch on.
          If nothing else it shows that if it gets fixed the lamps work and its a bit
          encouraging to see.
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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          • oddbodd
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 121
            • UK

            #65
            Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

            I've not got a suitable resistor to try that.

            I'll have a look, but I don't think I've got a 3v battery, either.

            You're right. It would be nice to see something working...

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            • selldoor
              Slow Learner
              • Dec 2010
              • 7870

              #66
              Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

              2 x 1.5 or even rechargeable 2x1.2 might do or a cr2016 cr2032 watch
              / cmos battery
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              • oddbodd
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 121
                • UK

                #67
                Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                Yes, just found some CR2032s in the drawer. I'll have a go, tomorrow.

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                • oddbodd
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 121
                  • UK

                  #68
                  Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                  With F301 re-soldered, I've tested with the lamps with the 3v battery, and I get a little bit of flickering, but that's all.

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                  • selldoor
                    Slow Learner
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7870

                    #69
                    Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                    Originally posted by oddbodd
                    With F301 re-soldered, I've tested with the lamps with the 3v battery, and I get a little bit of flickering, but that's all.
                    Hi - sorry- do you mean the lamps light well but flicker a bit or
                    lamps barely light at all


                    EDIT also v early on you said you replaced two caps
                    -did you use low esr ones? what make/series

                    EDIT2 also what was the original problem/symptom
                    if the set was yours what led up to that.
                    Last edited by selldoor; 12-10-2013, 07:14 AM.
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                    • oddbodd
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 121
                      • UK

                      #70
                      Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                      The lamps don't really light up. I'm just getting a bit of white flickering now and again.

                      The caps that I removed were Rubycon ZLH 1000uf 10v. I've now got an ESR meter and have tested them, and they seem OK.

                      972uf/ESR.10
                      963uf/ESR.09

                      Replaced with SD C288H

                      They test at over 1000uf and ESR ~.06

                      No history, I'm afraid. The monitor was given to me and was DOA. I might be able to find out, though.
                      Last edited by oddbodd; 12-10-2013, 10:11 AM.

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #71
                        Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                        I Have been reading back through- whilst one regulator was pointed out as being a problem I think the others need looking at.
                        Which one did you replace. ic???? Also there are only 3 so one of the other IC
                        is not a voltage regulator. Did you find any datasheets for them?
                        EDIt
                        Just sspotted it was ic1009 that was replaced
                        Last edited by selldoor; 12-10-2013, 11:28 AM.
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                        • oddbodd
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 121
                          • UK

                          #72
                          Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                          I've not found any datasheets yet.

                          Details of the ICs are in post#42

                          3 on the top and 1 underneath.

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                          • selldoor
                            Slow Learner
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7870

                            #73
                            Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                            Originally posted by oddbodd
                            I've not found any datasheets yet.

                            Details of the ICs are in post#42

                            3 on the top and 1 underneath.
                            Yes I have been looking at that post

                            The one with 78 M0 9A KW 9A has me puzzled can you do a close up pic of it

                            The other two are 1117 s and with no other numbers are usually adjustable
                            with a minimum output of 1.25v so they are not right BUT they could be ok and something else affecting them. Can you do a closer pic of the board
                            perhaps in 4 shots. Its not looking good and I have been looking to see if
                            I could find another board but they are like hens teeth!!
                            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                            • oddbodd
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 121
                              • UK

                              #74
                              Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                              OK, will have a try in daylight, tomorrow, but my camera's not brilliant.

                              Edit. Message from previous owner...

                              "the monitor was working fine and suddenly one day it just stopped working and would not turn on at all."

                              Maybe it was struck by lightening!
                              Last edited by oddbodd; 12-10-2013, 04:10 PM.

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                              • oddbodd
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 121
                                • UK

                                #75
                                Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                There's not a lot of daylight here [foggy], but here's some more pics...

                                I just noticed that there's also "J66" in the centre circle of IC 78M09A at IC1001.
                                Attached Files

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                                • selldoor
                                  Slow Learner
                                  • Dec 2010
                                  • 7870

                                  #76
                                  Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                  Hmm - Im slipping!!

                                  The first one IS a 78M09A dont know how I didnt find it.

                                  Here is the data sheet

                                  http://www.alldatasheet.net/datashee.../L78M09AB.html

                                  Should be 9Volts !! Will have to think about that.
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                                  • oddbodd
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Mar 2013
                                    • 121
                                    • UK

                                    #77
                                    Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                    Is this L78M05ABDT-TR a suitable replacement, do you think?

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                                    • selldoor
                                      Slow Learner
                                      • Dec 2010
                                      • 7870

                                      #78
                                      Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                      Originally posted by oddbodd
                                      Is this L78M05ABDT-TR a suitable replacement, do you think?
                                      Not sure why you would think that - are you looking at the datasheets

                                      the 09 in the 78M09A iindicates it is 9v fixed output
                                      the 05 in the L78M05ABDT-TR indicates it is 5v fixed output

                                      We dont of course know that it is faulty maybe just not getting voltage in.
                                      the 0 0 0 test result suggests that might be the case.
                                      Last edited by selldoor; 12-12-2013, 09:23 AM.
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                                      • oddbodd
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Mar 2013
                                        • 121
                                        • UK

                                        #79
                                        Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                        I'm not sure why I thought that either!

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