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  • oddbodd
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 121
    • UK

    #1

    Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

    Hi Guys,

    I've searched for info on this model, but there doesn't seem to be much... even here!

    I've repaired a couple of LCD monitors before, but the history of this one is unknown. All I know is that it doesn't power on.

    I've attached pics of the power board, which is marked with model number IP-55155B.

    I think that I might be imagining it, but the side of the cap C110 might be bulging ever so slightly, although it doesn't look like it in the pic. Is this likely to be the problem? [It's a 1000uf 10v 105c Rubycon ZLH]

    Thanks in advance for any help.
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    Last edited by oddbodd; 10-28-2013, 10:33 AM.
  • oddbodd
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 121
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

    Any suggestions?

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

      So there is no DC output at all, I.E. 5V? What DC voltage do you get on that large filter cap in the primary side?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • oddbodd
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 121
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

        I've not had time to test anything yet, and wasn't even sure where to start, to be honest. I am a novice at this, although I'm OK at soldering etc.

        Are you referring to the large Samyoung NFC 120uF 450V cap [C105]?

        Also I've only got a very old analogue multimeter at the moment.

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        • oddbodd
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 121
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

          I've now got a cheapo digital multimeter.

          Should I measure ~5V DC across the pins of the largest cap?

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          • solarpeter
            New Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 8
            • United Kingdom

            #6
            Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

            I don't want to hijack your thread but my problem relates to the same model of Syncmaster, (220HD) so maybe it belongs here?
            Interestingly I see we have slightly different power boards.
            My monitor boots up OK but pressing the source or menu button usually causes the image to break down in a random set of wavy stripes across the screen. The effect of the fault is to scramble the screen image and lock up from any further inputs. Only disconnecting from power allows the monitor to reboot to an image and even then this is often still scrambled.
            Like the OP, there is no obvious damage to the power board capacitors but I suspect the display board is crashing due to an unstable power feed from the PSU board?? Do you have any suggestions of possible causes and remedies to try. I am a competent solderer and have already tried replacing the two 1000uF caps as I had some spare.
            Is this 'system crash' type fault likely to be related the the power board, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

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            • oddbodd
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 121
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

              Originally posted by budm
              So there is no DC output at all, I.E. 5V? What DC voltage do you get on that large filter cap in the primary side?
              Well, I've finally got back to this.

              The large cap sparked with a loud crack, when I accidentally discharged it. I guess it's OK!

              I also replaced the 2 ZLH 10v 1000uF caps at C110 AND C111.

              Still no signs of life, so what should I test next, please? [I don't have an ESR meter]

              Thanks

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              • newtothis
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2013
                • 1556
                • england

                #8
                Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                can you give us a close up picture of the connectors on the PSU please

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                  Un-solder one end of the F301 and lift that end off the board to see if you will get any DC voltage at the connector that goes to the logic board. You can see the voltage labels at the connector. You can run the power supply board without having it connected to the logic board.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • oddbodd
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 121
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                    Originally posted by newtothis
                    can you give us a close up picture of the connectors on the PSU please
                    These connectors?
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                    • newtothis
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1556
                      • england

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                      Can you go across those pins from 1 to 9 and check voltages...

                      Also follow budm's advice

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                      • oddbodd
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 121
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                        OK, thanks. I'll try tomorrow.

                        BTW, what setting should I use on my DT830B multimeter, to safely discharge that big cap?
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                        • newtothis
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1556
                          • england

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                          I just use a 12Kohm resistor across the contacts

                          Never done it with a multimeter but sure its possible, someone will confirm this

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                          • oddbodd
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 121
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                            Originally posted by newtothis
                            Can you go across those pins from 1 to 9 and check voltages...

                            Also follow budm's advice
                            OK, this morning, I have desoldered one pin of F301, powered up the board, and taken the following voltage readings...

                            The big cap reads 336v
                            F301 disconnected [if I'm testing it correctly] 0.0 to 0.01 on setting 20 DCV
                            The voltages across the the connector pins...
                            1 [B-DIM] 0.0
                            2 [15V] 13.5 to 14.5 unstable
                            3 GND
                            4 GND
                            5 GND
                            6 [5.2V] 5.0 to 5.2 unstable
                            7 [5.2V] 5.0 to 5.2 unstable
                            8 [DCR] 0.0
                            9 [ON/OFF] 0.0
                            Last edited by oddbodd; 11-21-2013, 06:40 AM.

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                            • oddbodd
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 121
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                              Update to above post...

                              F301 [4A fuse] removed from board and tested OK.

                              Resoldered on board and connectors retested. Results as above except...

                              2 [15V] 14.3 to 14.6 unstable
                              Last edited by oddbodd; 11-21-2013, 09:11 AM.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                I have the fuse lifted up to isolate the inverter circuit from the power supply to see if you will get the DC ob the power supply back and to see if you can turn the monitor on and off when you have the main board connected to the power supply board, if you do have all he voltages and still no power LED (fuse still not connected) then you have problem in the main (logic) board
                                Last edited by budm; 11-21-2013, 09:48 AM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • oddbodd
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 121
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                  In that case, should I desolder the fuse again, reassemble everything, power up the monitor and see if the LED lights up?
                                  Last edited by oddbodd; 11-21-2013, 12:14 PM.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                    Only if you do not see any voltage as shown on post 14.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                    Comment

                                    • oddbodd
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2013
                                      • 121
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                      I'm not sure what you mean. Those voltages in post 14 are without the fuse in circuit.

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                                      • oddbodd
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Mar 2013
                                        • 121
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung SyncMaster LD220HD HDTV/Monitor - no power on

                                        Is it safe to power up with the fuse out of circuit?

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