40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #21
    Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

    It is Samsung LCD, so it uses U-shape CCFL
    http://backlightweb.co.uk/images/lar...ture%20007.jpg

    So each group of two pins (going to transformer secondary) is one bulb connection; that is where you should test.
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    • tieny
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Feb 2012
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      #22
      Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

      heres what I got (see photo)
      Attached Files

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #23
        Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

        Seems OK. Looks to use a design where the middle of the panel is driven using a smaller transformer, odd design. I'd look elsewhere on the inverter, can we have close up pic around each transformer?
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        • tieny
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          • Feb 2012
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          #24
          Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

          more photos
          Attached Files

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
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            #25
            Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

            OK, looking at pic:
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1359332628

            D101 is one diode for the error feed back.
            There will be one other diode for each transformer.

            Check the single lone pin for a voltage on each diode.
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            • tieny
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              #26
              Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

              I found the diodes for the left and right transformers but couldn't find the one for the middle one.

              Both D101 and D103 measure at 3.63V when the backlights come on and 0V when off then itll increase by 0.04V with each cycle.

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #27
                Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                3.6V is too high (will cause shutdown... normal working voltage 1~2V), so measure each of the two pins adjacent, and we will find which bulb or transformer is causing the problem. (Use volts AC.)
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                • tieny
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Feb 2012
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                  #28
                  Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                  So AC voltage, black probe on right pin and red on the left pin?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                    Service manual:
                    http://elektrotanya.com/?q=showresul...oria=&kat2=all

                    You may want to look at shopjimmy for the replacement Inverter board.
                    Attached Files
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                      I hope it is not the lamp.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • tieny
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 478
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                        Ebay is selling a bunch of these inverter boards for only about $12 including shipping, pretty cheap.

                        Even though the lamps are able to turn on prefectly, is it possible for it to still be bad?

                        I measured both diodes and they give me 9.5VAC

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #32
                          Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                          I'd just go for the board at $12. It's pretty unusual for the bulbs to fail without showing obvious signs (pink colour/flickering/dimmer than the rest, etc.)
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                          • tieny
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 478
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                            I had already made the order. Just wanna see whats causing this problem.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                              Well, please keep us up to date, that is very cheap for SONY parts.
                              Attached Files
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #35
                                Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                                That is why I like some newer TVs for parts. More people are collecting spare parts from cracked screen TVs (mostly damaged in shipping) now so the prices fall. I just started selling parts for a 42" Samsung plasma, 2011 model, which had a Wii controller hit it. Each board now only sells for about £5 each, because there's a surplus of them in the market. This is good for buyers, bad for sellers -- but I'm mostly a buyer so it's good overall. And since most TVs get damaged in shipping the parts are practically new.
                                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                • tieny
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Feb 2012
                                  • 478
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                                  I always have trouble selling inverter boards, many of them I salvaged from samsung and sony TV's but theyre only worth about $20 or less. I usually post mine as the lowest price of them all but then sometimes it not worth the shipping hassle

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                                    You should put up a list of parts for sale.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #38
                                      Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                                      Perhaps there should be a buy-sell forum on here for TV parts.
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                                        There is classified forum for selling parts: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

                                        • tom66
                                          EVs Rule
                                          • Apr 2011
                                          • 32560
                                          • UK

                                          #40
                                          Re: 40" Sony LCD KDL-40EX500 Seconds to black (6 blinks)

                                          Marked as computer parts only...
                                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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