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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #101
    Re: vizio vp50

    So you changed your meter battery and it reads different?
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    • heavymachines
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      • Mar 2011
      • 1028
      • United States

      #102
      Re: vizio vp50

      and with old worn battery 7.65 volt output and on breadboard i get 4.28 volts....


      and before battery change it read 4.10 volts what gives?

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #103
        Re: vizio vp50

        You should be changing your multimeter battery not TL431 supply.
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        • heavymachines
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          #104
          Re: vizio vp50

          i put the old worn battery 7.65 output back on it and it read 4.28 ....


          i bought 2 new 9 volts and changed dmm..of course i changed it's battery lol..

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          • heavymachines
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            • Mar 2011
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            #105
            Re: vizio vp50

            and i put the old worn out 9 volt battery back on the breadboard tested with old and new battery sorry if i threw confusion ....

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            • tom66
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              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
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              #106
              Re: vizio vp50

              I cannot explain your readings. You should be seeing 2.495V with 2% tolerance. What are you seeing between ref and anode i.e. 1 and 2.
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              • heavymachines
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                • Mar 2011
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                #107
                Re: vizio vp50

                Originally posted by tom66
                I cannot explain your readings. You should be seeing 2.495V with 2% tolerance. What are you seeing between ref and anode i.e. 1 and 2.
                reading -2.50v

                negative probe on pin1 ref

                positive probe on pin 2 anode

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                • heavymachines
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                  • Mar 2011
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                  #108
                  Re: vizio vp50

                  i think that might be the answer your looking for if i switch the probe i get 02.5v pin 1 and 2 but it a wild guess on my part...

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                  • tom66
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                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
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                    #109
                    Re: vizio vp50

                    It looks better but with that configuration you should get Vka = Vref (i.e. they should measure the same.)
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                    • heavymachines
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                      • Mar 2011
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                      #110
                      Re: vizio vp50

                      Originally posted by tom66
                      It looks better but with that configuration you should get Vka = Vref (i.e. they should measure the same.)
                      well idk....



                      up for any ideas to try.....

                      otherwise i guess we can wait till i get back to work and run jumper wires from pin 1 and 3 from back side of ps and take readings....

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                      • tom66
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                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #111
                        Re: vizio vp50

                        I'm thinking it's probably OK but there's another problem elsewhere. Put it back in the set. Any way at all to do some in circuit tests of it?
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                        • heavymachines
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                          • Mar 2011
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                          #112
                          Re: vizio vp50

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          I'm thinking it's probably OK but there's another problem elsewhere. Put it back in the set. Any way at all to do some in circuit tests of it?
                          not till tomorrow....but up for experimenting....


                          try another component in ps?

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                          • heavymachines
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                            • Mar 2011
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                            #113
                            Re: vizio vp50

                            i will put a different TL431 back in to rule out original....now that i figured out macros on the camera could get better pic if you would like to get better look...

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                            • heavymachines
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                              • Mar 2011
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                              #114
                              Re: vizio vp50

                              what are the other possibilities on this power supply that could cause low VA voltage?

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                              • tom66
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                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
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                                #115
                                Re: vizio vp50

                                Bad adjustment pot is one possibility.
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                                • heavymachines
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                                  • Mar 2011
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                                  #116
                                  Re: vizio vp50

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  Bad adjustment pot is one possibility.
                                  how to test that? use dmm and turn pot to see if ohms change?

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                                  • tom66
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                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #117
                                    Re: vizio vp50

                                    That's one test also it may say something like B100K on it which indicates resistance between two outer pins.
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                                    • heavymachines
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                                      • Mar 2011
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                                      #118
                                      Re: vizio vp50

                                      Originally posted by tom66
                                      That's one test also it may say something like B100K on it which indicates resistance between two outer pins.



                                      okay one way till stop reads 0.00 ohms
                                      as i turn it climbs to 15.0 ohms then climbs slowly to infinite.. (in circuit test) it an 3 pin device i used 2 outer pins for measurement...

                                      the pot number i can see on top is 3962.....

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                                      • tom66
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                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #119
                                        Re: vizio vp50

                                        It shouldn't climb to infinite; make sure your meter is set on 200kohm range.
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                                        • heavymachines
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                                          • Mar 2011
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                                          #120
                                          Re: vizio vp50

                                          Originally posted by tom66
                                          It shouldn't climb to infinite; make sure your meter is set on 200kohm range.
                                          how did i know you were gonna say that LOL? yes it was 200k ohm range



                                          say if its a 100k pot shouldn't it range from 0.00 to 100k?

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