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  • heavymachines
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    • Mar 2011
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    #81
    Re: vizio vp50

    Originally posted by tom66
    That is not right; is battery definitely the right way around?
    have positive (white) wire to resistor and (blue) wire to middle pin

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    • heavymachines
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      #82
      Re: vizio vp50

      is it possible that it's bad and acting as a pass thru thus creating a 16 volt reading on the power board thus meaning it's having a 16 volt input to the tl431? on the power board????????? kinda what it doing on this breadboard setup....with the 7.64 volt input...and it outputting same voltage..



      i do have tl431 on a different power board i can desolder and retest should i commence?
      Last edited by heavymachines; 01-20-2013, 01:50 PM.

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      • tom66
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        • Apr 2011
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        #83
        Re: vizio vp50

        I suspect the part is faulty; this is causing your low voltage readings.
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        • tom66
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          #84
          Re: vizio vp50

          Please try with the other TL431 so we can check the testing method is right.
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          • heavymachines
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            #85
            Re: vizio vp50

            here is a pic doing the test so you can observe
            Attached Files

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            • tom66
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              • Apr 2011
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              #86
              Re: vizio vp50

              Ah I realise I may be in error here. Just realised...
              Try moving the ref connection from 1-2 to 1-3.
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              • heavymachines
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                #87
                Re: vizio vp50

                i think so because i just tested two more both from different junk power supplies and same result...

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                • tom66
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                  • Apr 2011
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                  #88
                  Re: vizio vp50

                  Remove the 1-2 jumper and move it to 1-3.
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                  • heavymachines
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                    #89
                    Re: vizio vp50

                    Originally posted by tom66
                    Remove the 1-2 jumper and move it to 1-3.
                    okay with all three tl431 i get

                    pin 1-3 0.00volts


                    negative probe to pin 1 and positive probe to resistor i get 4.97 volts with 7.64 battery input voltage...

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                    • tom66
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                      #90
                      Re: vizio vp50

                      You want to do positive probe to resistor, negative probe to ground/battery negative.
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                      • heavymachines
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                        #91
                        Re: vizio vp50

                        Originally posted by tom66
                        You want to do positive probe to resistor, negative probe to ground/battery negative.
                        i did in above post

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                        • tom66
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                          • Apr 2011
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                          #92
                          Re: vizio vp50

                          I don't understand the 4.97V. Do you have other resistor values?
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                          • heavymachines
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                            #93
                            Re: vizio vp50

                            Originally posted by tom66
                            I don't understand the 4.97V. Do you have other resistor values?
                            some bunch in junk boards what would you like me to use? pick random or specific 1 k i am using 1 k right now...

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                            • tom66
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                              #94
                              Re: vizio vp50

                              Random from 470 ohm to 2.2k ohm.
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                              • heavymachines
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                                #95
                                Re: vizio vp50

                                okay found resister brown-black-brown-gold-yellow measures 100ohms on dmm and voltage results are 6.74v input and 4.21v measurement at neg probe pin 1 and positive at resistor end

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                                • tom66
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                                  • Apr 2011
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                                  #96
                                  Re: vizio vp50

                                  Either it's wired up wrong or the device isn't working, can you compare to the other devices, also what is the part # on it?
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                                  • heavymachines
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                                    #97
                                    Re: vizio vp50

                                    Originally posted by tom66
                                    Either it's wired up wrong or the device isn't working, can you compare to the other devices, also what is the part # on it?
                                    ic #1
                                    utc
                                    TL431
                                    RMF


                                    ic#2
                                    KA
                                    431AZ

                                    ic#3
                                    HA
                                    431
                                    405c

                                    all shunt style

                                    all get same now around 4.10 volts
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • tom66
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                                      #98
                                      Re: vizio vp50

                                      I'm suspicious of your meter battery. Can you make sure it's OK?
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                                      • heavymachines
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                                        #99
                                        Re: vizio vp50

                                        Originally posted by tom66
                                        I'm suspicious of your meter battery. Can you make sure it's OK?
                                        sure thing will go next door and get new one just for good measure brb

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                                        • heavymachines
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                                          #100
                                          Re: vizio vp50

                                          okay got 2 new batteries measure 9.3 volts each now that same voltage is input for bread board now reads 6.65 volts

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