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  • arman960
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
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    #1

    Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

    totally dead. When I push the power button ,nothing happens. No light. No sign of power.

    I checked the fuse on power board. Fuse is ok. I checked the resistance of the transformer pins S1 & S2 =972 Ohm
    S3 & S4 =972 Ohm


    Whoever replies thanks for that.Click image for larger version

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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
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    #2
    Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

    Do you have about 165vdc on that large brown cap?
    Any 5vstby?
    Also good pictures of this power supply/inverter board both sides and also good closed up in 1/4 section each so I can trace the copper tracks
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • arman960
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      • Sep 2012
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      #3
      Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

      Originally posted by budm
      Do you have about 165vdc on that large brown cap?
      Any 5vstby?
      Also good pictures of this power supply/inverter board both sides and also good closed up in 1/4 section each so I can trace the copper tracks

      I get 172.4 VDC from that big brown caps.

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      • ben7
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        • Jan 2011
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        #4
        Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

        Originally posted by arman960
        I get 172.4 VDC from that big brown caps.
        That is good. Infact, your line voltage seems a bit high. But it's not dangerously so.

        Does the white transformer make a ticking sound when you try to turn it on?
        Muh-soggy-knee

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        • arman960
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          • Sep 2012
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          #5
          Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

          There is no sound or clicking noise. No LED anywhere. when I push the power button, nothing happens.

          This main board is connected to DVD player. This TV basically has powerboard integrated with Inverter and main board. Basically two boards and dvd player
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          Last edited by arman960; 10-07-2012, 07:17 PM.

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
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            #6
            Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

            As you can see in picture #3 in your post #1, see if the you have 5V on that pin (pin #3 from the right).
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • arman960
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              • Sep 2012
              • 129
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              #7
              Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

              There is no 5 volts or 12 volts. The unit is dead.

              It has one section primary and other section secondary.

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              • ben7
                Capaholic
                • Jan 2011
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                #8
                Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                Originally posted by arman960
                There is no 5 volts or 12 volts. The unit is dead.

                It has one section primary and other section secondary.
                The smps IC is an SG6742MR

                Check the voltage:

                1. From GND to pin 4 (Vstart)
                2. From GND to pin 6 (VDD)

                Please report back your findings.
                Attached Files
                Muh-soggy-knee

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                • arman960
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                  #9
                  Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                  Originally posted by ben7
                  The smps IC is an SG6742MR

                  Check the voltage:

                  1. From GND to pin 4 (Vstart)
                  2. From GND to pin 6 (VDD)

                  Please report back your findings.

                  GND to PIN 4 = 8.2 VDC


                  do you think the IC is bad?

                  GND to PIN 6 = 0 VDC
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                  Last edited by arman960; 10-08-2012, 05:35 PM.

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                  • lti
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • May 2011
                    • 2544
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                    VDD is pin 7, not pin 6.

                    The voltage on pin 4 seems low. I would check the components connected to pin 4 and the resistance from pin 4 to ground, but someone else might have a better idea.
                    Last edited by lti; 10-08-2012, 06:15 PM.

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                    • arman960
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                      #11
                      Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                      Originally posted by lti
                      VDD is pin 7, not pin 6.
                      I get 0 vdc from 6 and 7 pins.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                        When HV is applied to pin 4, the DC voltage at pin7 VDD should start rising, when it reaches the VDD-ON (15.5V), the Gate drive signal will appear at pin8 Gate drive to drive the MOSFET, when the drive happens the DC will be generate by the rectifier diode that is connected to the Aux winding of the standby switching transformer which will keep itself running and the IC will no longer use the HV voltage. Since pin4 is reading only about 8V, that will not be enough to start up the IC. If you look at the app note, the circuits used in your TV will be really close to what is shown.
                        So take the resistance reading at pin4 as suggested by lti, also take the resistance reading at pin 7 also. Check the resistor and cap that supplies the power to pin4 also.
                        Attached Files
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • arman960
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 129
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                          Originally posted by budm
                          When HV is applied to pin 4, the DC voltage at pin7 VDD should start rising, when it reaches the VDD-ON (15.5V), the Gate drive signal will appear at pin8 Gate drive to drive the MOSFET, when the drive happens the DC will be generate by the rectifier diode that is connected to the Aux winding of the standby switching transformer which will keep itself running and the IC will no longer use the HV voltage. Since pin4 is reading only about 8V, that will not be enough to start up the IC. If you look at the app note, the circuits used in your TV will be really close to what is shown.
                          So take the resistance reading at pin4 as suggested by lti, also take the resistance reading at pin 7 also. Check the resistor and cap that supplies the power to pin4 also.

                          I do not have Multimeter to measure capacitance. So I just use multimeter's Mega Ohm to see if the capacitor charging or not. But I can check those capacitor and ressitors that supplies power to pin 4.

                          when you said to measure resistance at pin 4 and 7, did you mean resistance between pin GND and pin 4?

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                          • ben7
                            Capaholic
                            • Jan 2011
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                            #14
                            Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                            Sorry about the pin messup.

                            I think, the chip could be bad - but first you should measure the resistance of pin 7 (from pin 7 to ground). Make sure the board is unplugged and the giant filter capacitor is discharged first!
                            Muh-soggy-knee

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                              Sorry for not being clear:
                              4 and Gnd, 7 and Gnd.
                              Does the app notes circuit match pretty close to your board?
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • arman960
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 129
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                                Originally posted by budm
                                Sorry for not being clear:
                                4 and Gnd, 7 and Gnd.
                                Does the app notes circuit match pretty close to your board?

                                Yes the circuit close to the IC looks like this. But I am not good at reading the trace circuit diagram though. The pictures are in Primary power supply section

                                The resistance between 4 and GND is open

                                resistance between 7 and GND is only 3.5 Ohm

                                is this normal?
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                                Last edited by arman960; 10-08-2012, 11:19 PM.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                                  That is NOT normal at all on pin7. You will have to carefully unsolder and lift pin7, then take the reading again.
                                  Can you take good clear pictures of the board in the IC area so I can see how the traces are connected? Pin 7 looks like it is connected to a jumper wire.
                                  Last edited by budm; 10-08-2012, 11:21 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • arman960
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Sep 2012
                                    • 129
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    That is NOT normal at all on pin7. You will have to carefully unsolder and lift pin7, then take the reading again.
                                    Can you take good clear pictures of the board in the IC area so I can see how the traces are connected? Pin 7 looks like it is connected to a jumper wire.
                                    Here is the picture of top bottom and lower section of the board
                                    Attached Files
                                    Last edited by arman960; 10-08-2012, 11:35 PM.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                                      OK, much better pictures with less reflection.
                                      Correction! I look real close at the picture, pin 7 is connected to J7 jumper, and it is ALSO connected to C104 to ground and also ZD101 to ground.
                                      So best thing to do is to lift pin 7 off the board.
                                      So the short can be the IC, C104, or ZD101.
                                      Last edited by budm; 10-09-2012, 12:06 AM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • arman960
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Sep 2012
                                        • 129
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Dynex dx-22ld150a11 LCD TV No Power Dead

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        OK, much better pictures with less reflection.
                                        Correction! I look real close at the picture, pin 7 is connected to J7 jumper, and it is ALSO connected to C104 to ground and also ZD101 to ground.
                                        So best thing to do is to lift pin 7 off the board.
                                        So the short can be the IC, C104, or ZD101.

                                        Ok removed the J7 jumper and than measured the resistance.

                                        GND and pin 4= open or very high resistance (above 2M Ohm)

                                        GND and 7= 3.5 Ohm

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