Panasonic plasma TH-42PZ80U 2 blink 15v SOS

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  • tom66
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    They have slightly different part #s so I presume it's possible to put them the wrong way around and have it not work.

    The modules generate the drive waveforms for the 16N55G's.

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  • jettboat
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    thanks didn't have SM for schematic this one should be much easier than the "panny tnpa4782 issues" will test shortly

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  • vinceroger69
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    are mc201 mc301 the same moduels could the previous repairer put them in wrong would this cause your fault? just thinking aloud here i dont know what these moduels are for.

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  • tom66
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    SM:


    Pins 15Vc in schematic for P board.

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  • jettboat
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    Also I personally didn't replace the TEA1611T plus caps on MC201 and MC301, it was done by a student 3 quarters behind me that could not fix it, this is how I acquired the set
    free

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  • jettboat
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    Where should I be finding 15v tp ? Vscan did seem low to me. when the screen powers up the power supply gets loud like inverter under stress so I don't leave it on more than a few seconds last time the 16n55g blew this is my 3rd set

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  • tom66
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    Vscan should be around 140V. Is 15V good? Vs @ 190V rated is quite low for this type of panel - I have ones at 198V and 207V.

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  • jettboat
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    I got the 16n55g's in still same issue Vsus is @188v on the panel requires 190v, Ve is @144.5v panel 145v, Vda @ 142.9v Vset @ 321.8v Vscan -0.95 don't have SM to know the required V

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  • the_learner
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    Re: Panasonic plasma TH-42PZ80U 2 blink 15v SOS

    Originally posted by dj_ricoh
    i did repair a tv like this 3 weeks ago.
    at first i putt a bad smd cap in and it did the same. until i check with capacitor meter and saw witch caps was good i did not had a chance to fix it without knowing what cap to install there
    Thanks dj. how did you check the caps?

    I think 16N55G FETs may also be the culprit. So, I'm planning to change the FETs also.
    Last edited by the_learner; 02-05-2014, 09:59 PM. Reason: error

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  • dj_ricoh
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    Originally posted by the_learner
    jettboat, I've got two *702MF boards and none has any zener at ZD202.

    I'm also struggling to get my 42PZ800A running having 10 blinks error. Changed the caps and ICs on MC201 & 301 after which it gave 2 LED blinks. No blown fuses. I thought I messed up something. So, bought another PSU from ebay which was pulled from a TV having 10 blinks error. I straight away installed to check and got the same 2 blinks error Though I have a service manual for the TV but I'm not an expert. So, any help will be appreciated.
    i did repair a tv like this 3 weeks ago.
    at first i putt a bad smd cap in and it did the same. until i check with capacitor meter and saw witch caps was good i did not had a chance to fix it without knowing what cap to install there

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  • tom66
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    2 blinks on these is "early abort" of VSUS which is an odd one. In the service manual it say 15V. Basically you want to check VSUS while TV powers on. If VSUS doesn't rise then isolate SC and SS board (you may get 6,7,8 blinks.) If it still doesn't rise then you have a problem on the PSU.

    2 blinks is generated by D board.

    Basically PSU will turn on and work normally, but as soon as it sees VSUS is low, it wlll turn off 15V causing D board to sense low 15V.

    Also, a short in 15V after the additional 15V rails switch on can cause 2 blinks.
    Last edited by tom66; 02-04-2014, 04:52 AM.

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  • the_learner
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    jettboat, I've got two *702MF boards and none has any zener at ZD202.

    I'm also struggling to get my 42PZ800A running having 10 blinks error. Changed the caps and ICs on MC201 & 301 after which it gave 2 LED blinks. No blown fuses. I thought I messed up something. So, bought another PSU from ebay which was pulled from a TV having 10 blinks error. I straight away installed to check and got the same 2 blinks error Though I have a service manual for the TV but I'm not an expert. So, any help will be appreciated.

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  • tom66
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    You could use a light bulb limiter when testing by cutting out F201 and putting a bulb in its place....

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  • jettboat
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    looks like its not used from pic I've seen but someone desoldered the location for it back to the drawing board have the 16n55 in now to test some more

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  • tom66
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    Just checked a spare *702 board of mine from a PZ80B and it has that zener missing too. Mine has 2 blinks but I never managed to get FETs going. Ended up finding a PSU with the common 10 blink fault, fixed that and used that in this set.

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  • jettboat
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    Well think I found the issue with the 15v supply there's a zener diode missing on my ps @ location zd202 it is tied to the mc201 board that controls the switching for the 16n55's I keep blowing, Any one know the value or the color code its marked with? As its missing. The one that is next to mc301 is red & violet striped & the body is light purple in color. Was worked on by others apparently before I got it crap.

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  • jettboat
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    I will got to get the new fet's yet to start over maybe ill order 4 for a backup set coming from Colorado 4 days or so

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  • tom66
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    Check Vset and Vda, on SC and PSU respectively.

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  • jettboat
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    Yes checked it even lowered by 2v to see if that would help was no change wondering if the driver ic is not operating properly may swap them to see if it changes

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  • tom66
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    Did you check what the VSUS measured when it worked? Perhaps that was set too high.

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