Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

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  • waakye
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2018
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    #21
    Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

    Hi Zing, are there specific points on the logic board that I can verify the main voltages (RAM, FLASH,CPU)?

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    • waakye
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      • Dec 2018
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      #22
      Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

      Hi Zinge,
      Could you tell me exactly which points I can measure the main voltages for the logic board (RAM, Flash, CPU)
      Thanks

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

        Originally posted by Zinge
        I'm sorry I got into your topic. I didn't have any output voltage from the power supply
        There was a short circuit (0Omh) on the three Green capacitors
        As a diode, there is a mosfet Q4. It's been burned down.
        As I replace it I will say or do it


        PS/
        Author of the topic check the main voltages on the board (RAM,FLASH,CPU)
        That MOSFET Q4 is part of Active rectification (or synchronous rectification) circuit, the Gate of the MOSFET is driven by IC U16. Look up the part number of the IC so you can get the spec sheet and it may include application circuit for the IC.
        C249 connected in series with resistors R409//R410 are RC snubber for Q4 Source and Drain pin, make sure they are OK. Hopefully U16 is OK because if U16 us bad and the output of U16 causes Q4 to stay on instead of switching on and off then Q4 will be damaged.
        Last edited by budm; 04-30-2021, 02:09 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...8&d=1619775827

          I see at least two switching power supplies (look to Buck converters), you can see the black inductors with 4R7 printed on top, then in that section you will see lytic caps and look like some tantalum caps ( black rectangular device) with 107 printed on top, so check the DCV between the legs of those caps.
          Also provide the zoom in pictures of those power supplies sections so we can read the prints.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • waakye
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Dec 2018
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            #25
            Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

            Hi budm, thanks for pointing it out. I took the DC measurements and attached an image with my findings.
            I am getting 4.96VDC on all the caps. the side with the stripe. The other side reads 0v most likely because its the ground.
            Attached Files

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

              What DCV do you read on that Lytics cap C335 (22UF 35V)? I expect about 14VDC.
              Since you are getting about 5VDC, that means it is 5V Buck converter.
              How about the Voltage of another buck converter on the top right of the board? I see IC U4 in that section, you need to the Voltage readings on those MLCC (Multi Layer Ceramic Capacitor, TAN Color looking caps)
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Zinge
                Member
                • Apr 2021
                • 19
                • Poznan

                #27
                Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                I installed Q4 AUIRFB4410 end the output voltage appeared 13.5V.
                I'll try to enable it

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                • waakye
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                  • Dec 2018
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                  #28
                  Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                  I am reading 14VDC on the cap C335.
                  I am reading the following voltages on the caps on the MLCC caps: 14.02VDC and 3.31 on the other side on the caps . I have an image attach with specifics. also C4 is reading 14.02VDC
                  Thanks
                  Attached Files
                  Last edited by waakye; 05-01-2021, 05:02 AM.

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                  • waakye
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                    • Dec 2018
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                    #29
                    Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                    Anywhere else I can verify?
                    Thanks

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                    • Zinge
                      Member
                      • Apr 2021
                      • 19
                      • Poznan

                      #30
                      Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                      We need to look for software . Write to the manufacturer

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                      • waakye
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                        • Dec 2018
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                        #31
                        Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                        You think the software on it might be corrupted?

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                        • waakye
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                          #32
                          Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                          Hey Zinge, any progress on your end?

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                            Originally posted by waakye
                            I am reading 14VDC on the cap C335.
                            I am reading the following voltages on the caps on the MLCC caps: 14.02VDC and 3.31 on the other side on the caps . I have an image attach with specifics. also C4 is reading 14.02VDC
                            Thanks
                            So you also have 3.3V, so far you do have 5V and 3.3V to run the logic circuits.
                            What is the history of the unit? It mat be FW issue. Did you do any search to see if other people have the same similar issue?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • waakye
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 340
                              • Electronada

                              #34
                              Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                              The unit randomly stop working when I was watching TV. I actually thought it was a bad cap that gave up.
                              Thanks for your help budm. I will search on Google if I can find a firmware. Thanks again.

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                              • waakye
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                                #35
                                Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                                Sonos were no help. Hey Zinge, you mind sharing the firmware on yours here?

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                                • Zinge
                                  Member
                                  • Apr 2021
                                  • 19
                                  • Poznan

                                  #36
                                  Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                                  After the replacement, MOSFET started working. Currently working. I will check whether it will work
                                  The firmware is unique. There's a MAC address...keys. I have nothing for you to read the software from The Flash
                                  Last edited by Zinge; 05-06-2021, 05:04 AM.

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                                  • waakye
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                                    So I plug the Ethernet cable directly to my router and from the Sonos app, I was able to successfully download the firmware even though the speaker did not have the standby led on. What I found that after I increase the volume of speaker via the app, the app stops responding and the speaker stops playing. Once I unplugged and plug the speaker, I have to go through the process of adding the speaker again.

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                                    • waakye
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                                      • Dec 2018
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Sonos Playbase S11 dead. No led at the front

                                      Many thanks goes to budm for helping me on how to troubleshoot the circuit.
                                      Thanks Zinge for your input as well.

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