Willawake says : Sorry dood, i edit your post to say that this is the discussion about the psu pictorial thread. if you want to say it, please say it here.
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Re: Power supply build quality pictorial
Hey japlytic.Originally posted by japlytic
I have had a Topfield TFPVR5000t since March04. (The Toppy is the best toy EVER, IMHO)
What is your opinion of the PSU and the caps on it, and the caps on the main board for that matter?
I notice alot of them are "Sam Young", while the big one is a "Sam Wha".
I open it up regularly for HD removal/quick-transfer (I've got a WD250 in it) and do a quick visual inspection of the caps each time, just for safe measure.Last edited by willawake; 01-07-2006, 05:17 PM. -
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I had mine since early 2005. Topfield must have later gone onto the cheaper Samxon capacitors for the mainboard, compared to your earlier one. The components in the power supply were quite decently sized, and has been fine for over a year, despite running a little hot.Originally posted by cods69Last edited by willawake; 01-07-2006, 05:18 PM.My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.Comment
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I've had bought 300W Maxpower/Everpower PSU as a replacement for SkyHawk 250W - but it was weaker
and the voltages were bad - so I promptly bought DTK PTP-3007 and sold that crap.
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my 250W Channel Well CWT-250ATX is approximately 12 years old. This PSU is so old, the 92mm fan blows into the computer case instead of into the PSU.
Primary caps are 470uf Matsushita, secondary side is a forest of Fuhjyyu... not one appears bad. This PSU was in regular use up until a month ago.Last edited by willawake; 01-07-2006, 05:21 PM.Comment
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Can't be 12. There was no ATX before 1997 (IIRC). And I see "98" on the transformer.Comment
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I guess '98 would be about right - I only got that unit and a 10gb IMB hard drive a year ago in exchange for a Fujitsu 6.4gb hard drive. It belonged to a friend, who bought the case it came in well before I'd even met him.
As it turned out, the IBM was DOA so I'm not sure I got the better part of that bargain
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Re: Power supply build quality pictorial
Notice the nice substantial heatsinks on the Deltas (and O/P trannies) and the Sparkle? Ya gotta keep the junction temps on those O/P rectifiers and power MOSFETS (possibly power transistors in the Sparkle) within reason. The power ratings are real on those.PeteS in CA
Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells.
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Did you also notice what appears to be a large burnt spot on the above Sparkle? I only noticed it after I posted the picture here... As far as I know, the PSU is still operating normally.Ludicrous gibs!
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Was it caused by the larger resistor that's standing up? Because in either a 300W or 350W Fortron/Sparkle, I found that such a resistor was dissipating almost exactly its max power rating, either 5/8W or 1W. Aren't resistors supposed to be rated for at least twice their operating power?Originally posted by doodComment
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Yes, I did see that. It looks like a 1W or (more likely) 2W. It could be disspating its rated power or a bit more, or it may simply be mounted too close to the PCB. Normal design practice at places I've worked at was to mount resistors 1/2W and higher spaced off the PCB to avoid scorching the board. Good design practice would be to use resistors at ~70% or less than their reated power (taking into account the operating ambient temp. US mil-spec requires 50% max.PeteS in CA
Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells.
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Re: Power supply build quality pictorial
Originally posted by Per Hansson
You're going to recap an L&C?
Since there is no ugly integrated-into-PSU-case fan grill on that, does it use a removable wire fan grill?
Please post the after-the-recap photo of that L&C after you recap it.My gaming PC:
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition 3.3GHz Six-Core CPU (Socket AM3)
ASUS M4A77TD AMD 770 AM3 Motherboard
PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5 PCI-Express x16 3.0 Graphics Card
G.SKILL Value Series 16GB DDR3-1333 RAM (4x4GB dual channel)
TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD (x2)
WD Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channel PCI sound card
Antec HCG-750M 750W ATX12V v2.32 80 PLUS BRONZE Power Supply
Antec Three Hundred Mid-Tower Case
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bitComment
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Nahh, it was just for fun... And to have an emergency extra PSU at hand...Originally posted by Newbie2
I already recapped it, See here...
The missing fan was because I put a 92mm fan in the bottom of the PSU instead, to reduce noise. And because the 80mm one started to fail and I had a 92mm one just on my bench
That PSU came from a real cheap case, has powered a friends comp a few months before he got a real PSU, and after that my brothers till the caps failed and it would no longer turn on..."The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."Comment
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FSP700-80GLC power supplies as research have shown are 700W power supplies.
Maybe they used the board for the FSP700-80GLC but changed the components?Last edited by willawake; 01-07-2006, 05:33 PM.My gaming PC:
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition 3.3GHz Six-Core CPU (Socket AM3)
ASUS M4A77TD AMD 770 AM3 Motherboard
PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5 PCI-Express x16 3.0 Graphics Card
G.SKILL Value Series 16GB DDR3-1333 RAM (4x4GB dual channel)
TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD (x2)
WD Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channel PCI sound card
Antec HCG-750M 750W ATX12V v2.32 80 PLUS BRONZE Power Supply
Antec Three Hundred Mid-Tower Case
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bitComment
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Probably. The protection circuitry board is also marked "FSP700-60GLN." Not that I need the extra power
The OST caps worry me a bit though.Comment
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The heatsinks in the 300W P/S are larger than the 400W? Puhlease! And there is no fr
ing way those heatsinks in the "600W" unit are good for 600W continuous! 200W continuous might be pushing your luck.
PeteS in CA
Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells.
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I trust Fortron to rate their units more or less accurately - this one's supposedly 85% efficient, so the sinks wouldn't need to be quite as big as my maybe 65% efficient 530W with monster heatsinks. I've seen Tom's Hardware pull the full 700W from Aopen's version of the FSP700-80GLN too without issues. The sinks in that one are even smaller to allow the 120mm fan. Not sure about the 600W rating myself, but I am quite sure it'll do more than 200W.
Forgot to mention earlier that topmost sink is bolted to the case. I really need a digital camera
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(referrng to the FSP460-60PFN) Holy packed, man! Does air actually flow through that? Sorry... I just had to comment...Last edited by willawake; 01-07-2006, 05:35 PM.Ludicrous gibs!
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looks like my fsp300-60gt.
7 years of 24/7/365 and the yec caps are just starting to go.
not bulging or leaking.just more ripple than i like to see.wasnt causing a problem yet but i will recap anyway.found during a routine cleaning and pm .
confirms that bad qc may be the reason for bad caps.yec are well known crap but we have some here with lots of hard hours on them that are just now failing.
btw i see a few fsp psu on sale at 22.00.
i think the store ordered some so expect a full report :-)Comment
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Re: Power supply build quality pictorial DISCUSSION
That's some good 350W power supply, but the pictures were a bit big.Originally posted by Per HanssonMy gaming PC:
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition 3.3GHz Six-Core CPU (Socket AM3)
ASUS M4A77TD AMD 770 AM3 Motherboard
PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5 PCI-Express x16 3.0 Graphics Card
G.SKILL Value Series 16GB DDR3-1333 RAM (4x4GB dual channel)
TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD (x2)
WD Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channel PCI sound card
Antec HCG-750M 750W ATX12V v2.32 80 PLUS BRONZE Power Supply
Antec Three Hundred Mid-Tower Case
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bitComment
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The sub developed a constant popping every couple seconds from woofer and power LED flickering with nothing but wall AC connected. Connecting an audio cable didn't change anything. It doesn't play but a second or two of audio in between the pops.
Opened it up and discovered the power supply is making a faint clicking or ticking sound.
I measured the amp's output to the woofer and it pulses up to 50mv DC to be driver. The pulses coincide with the power supply ticking/clicking.
I measured the power supply output going to the amp board and it too has this pulsing. Voltage cycles... -
More Lo-Fi speakers and another DIY surround repair. The patient this time: a pair of Philips F9217L-50R speakers from a budget Philips rack/component system from the '80's. The system belongs to my brother in-law… or actually his parents. However, they didn't want it when they moved houses and he liked it anyways, so he ended up keeping it. It's a pretty cool-looking vintage system with a wood/veneer cabinet and shelves for records and cassettes. Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to take a picture of it or get the model #'s (but maybe next time I visit, if anyone is curious?)
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Boston Acoustics fans, this thread might not be for you.
A few years back (~2018 time frame), I picked up a set of free JVC speakers from someone on Craigslist that no one seemed to be interested in. The guy also had a single Boston Acoustics HD8 speaker – yes, just one cabinet. He said he had no idea where he got this one from or why it's only by itself. But like the JVC speakers, it was going to get tossed at the end of that week… so I came to collect, as usual. And that's all I know about this HD8. After all, I figured why not take it and see what's inside… show it to the...
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These cheap non brand capacitors at it again
Last night we had a power outage [ long drawn out trying three to come back up before going out completely ] and when I went to turn the DVR camera recorder back today no go 3 bad capacitors ( one capacitor no ESR reading on DVR board the other 3 capacitor on the power supply board over 40 ohm this is not a misprint ) on the external switching power supply and one capacitor on the DVR camera recorder board where the power supply that goes to the hard drive disk is
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When I originally started with my DVR recorder it had 4 individual switching switching power supply’s that were sh*t so I bought a 7 amp 12 volt switching power supply and modified the output plug and put a four output power supply cable to match the input power supply cable inputs
Which worked for over 14 years until a few days ago when the cameras went dark no picture anymore well it turns out now the switching power supply has stopped working altogether now so I have to troubleshoot what has happened to this power supply more later on today what I found
This...
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