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  • vinceroger69
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2012
    • 6714
    • uk

    #141
    Re: LG LCD power supply

    just tested these resistors too all measure ok and the same on both boards

    It first goes through a resistive divider formed by SMD resistors R202 and R203.
    Then there is some logic signal going on with SMD transistors Q200 and Q201 and SMD resistors R200 and R201.

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    • vinceroger69
      Badcaps Legend
      • Mar 2012
      • 6714
      • uk

      #142
      Re: LG LCD power supply

      just going too test these for you now R219 and R205

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      • vinceroger69
        Badcaps Legend
        • Mar 2012
        • 6714
        • uk

        #143
        Re: LG LCD power supply

        R219 1081 measures 1.800 on 2k
        R205 1001 measures 1.00 on 2k

        these readings are the same on both boards

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #144
          Re: LG LCD power supply

          Originally posted by vinceroger69
          just going too test these for you now R219 and R205
          Check to see if you're also getting 1.2V on the feedback.
          BTW, did you replace the filter cap for the output of this 3.3V circuit?
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • vinceroger69
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            • Mar 2012
            • 6714
            • uk

            #145
            Re: LG LCD power supply

            all capacitors replaced with panasonics budm will measure voltage now

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            • vinceroger69
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #146
              Re: LG LCD power supply

              0.78 v on fb pin on bad board
              0.85 v on fb good board
              Last edited by vinceroger69; 06-13-2016, 11:39 AM.

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              • vinceroger69
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2012
                • 6714
                • uk

                #147
                Re: LG LCD power supply

                just to clarify this
                Now, what is puzzling is that first P201 test, where you got 2.05 Volts both for the good and bad boards. Was the TV still working? If the voltages are the same, I don't see why the "bad" board would have caused problems then. Seems the results would be inconsistent... unless you measured or wrote down those test voltages incorrectly. (But I doubt that)

                p201 is the 3.4 on pin on the connector 2.05 volts on both boards (i guess this turns the 3.4 section on thats on p202/p203 connector 2.21 on bad board tv wont work 2.87 good board tv works.

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                • vinceroger69
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 6714
                  • uk

                  #148
                  Re: LG LCD power supply

                  im seriously thinking of using a ebay dc to dc convertor yes there cheap also can add a heat sink etc now the bad bit is on the tv psu board its printed the 3.4v rail needs 5amp is this correct?

                  would this work?
                  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-38V-to-1...AAAOSwEetV-6~x
                  Last edited by vinceroger69; 06-13-2016, 01:34 PM.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #149
                    Re: LG LCD power supply

                    That should be more than enough, I believe Tom66 did do some mod like that but I am not sure, I am not sure if this power supply has to be off and be turned on at the right sequence by the main board or not.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • vinceroger69
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 6714
                      • uk

                      #150
                      Re: LG LCD power supply

                      im not sure budm to be honest can i link the 3.4 v on wire to the other 3.4 volt ones going back to the main board? (i will of course remove these wires from the connector at the psu end then re connect too the new 3.4v board i have plenty of room to mount it.) Thanks again budm and momaka for your input in trying too fix the old section of the psu im sure both of you could of fixed this if you had the board in front of you and if you was in the uk i would of sent it too you if you wanted too try but hey i will class my fix with this additional board as a mod and not a bodge job.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #151
                        Re: LG LCD power supply

                        I think if we can get the IC spec of that EBAY board, we may be able to turn it on and off.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • vinceroger69
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 6714
                          • uk

                          #152
                          Re: LG LCD power supply

                          Ok once it arrives i will update this thread thanks again.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #153
                            Re: LG LCD power supply

                            I may get one of that power supply myself, good for powering up the circuit that has failed power supply section.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • vinceroger69
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6714
                              • uk

                              #154
                              Re: LG LCD power supply

                              I have ordered two myself at that price cant go wrong pity it does not say if it comes with the heat sinks as shown in the pictures i will find out in a few weeks i guess.

                              budm to power this replacement board where would you get the supply voltage from i was thinking of the 24 volt line as that runs at 6 amps and then use the convertor to drop the voltage down etc or would you recomend using another voltage line.
                              Last edited by vinceroger69; 06-13-2016, 03:21 PM.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #155
                                Re: LG LCD power supply

                                It looks like it can be fed by the 5VSTBY just like the original circuit, the load current will still be same as before, the limit will be up to what the load will draw, the load for that new 3.3V supply is not going to be any more than what the old circuit can provide.
                                According to the spec, the board can take in as low as 4V, and the out put can be adjust from 1.25V and up, so it should have no problem converting the 5V into 3.3V output.
                                You should remove the two MOSFETs and the U200 from the board.
                                I would connect the input pin to the old 5VSTBY inductor output pin that feeds the old circuit, and the output pin of the new supply should be connected to the output filter inductor of the old circuit.
                                Last edited by budm; 06-13-2016, 04:01 PM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • vinceroger69
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 6714
                                  • uk

                                  #156
                                  Re: LG LCD power supply

                                  Ok budm will do that thanks again.
                                  Last edited by vinceroger69; 06-13-2016, 03:57 PM.

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                                  • vinceroger69
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 6714
                                    • uk

                                    #157
                                    Re: LG LCD power supply

                                    like this budm once removed the three parts
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                                    Last edited by vinceroger69; 06-13-2016, 04:31 PM.

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                                    • vinceroger69
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Mar 2012
                                      • 6714
                                      • uk

                                      #158
                                      Re: LG LCD power supply

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      I may get one of that power supply myself, good for powering up the circuit that has failed power supply section.
                                      budm these have just arrived today and they do with with the heat sinks that stick on too the ic i will remove the smd parts you mentioned from the old psu later and set the output voltage up and find somewhere to mount the new module.

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                                      • momaka
                                        master hoarder
                                        • May 2008
                                        • 12175
                                        • Bulgaria

                                        #159
                                        Re: LG LCD power supply

                                        Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                        i will remove the smd parts you mentioned from the old psu later and set the output voltage up and find somewhere to mount the new module.
                                        Actually, before you do that, I think we may need some of them to implement the control of 3.4V when 3.4V_ON is high. I will try to draw a diagram/circuit for you a little later today.

                                        *OR* if you want to go ahead and try plugging in the buck converter anyways without using the 3.4V_ON control, that's fine too. Just make sure to save the SMD parts you remove in case we do need them.

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #160
                                          Re: LG LCD power supply

                                          We need to find the spec sheet of that IC used on the board you just bought to find out if there is any ENABLE pin so we can use the 3.4V_ON signal to control it.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                          Comment

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