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  • simabilisim
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    • Mar 2017
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    #1

    DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

    DAG37AMB8D0 rev: D
    notebook does not start
    There is no 3.3v on the 8th pin of the bios, when I disassembled the bios integrated there was 3.3v. I wrote to another bios integrated, when I plug again, there is no voltage on the 8th leg. I deleted the software in the bios, reconnected it to the motherboard, there is 3.3v when there is no software.
    Last edited by simabilisim; 05-19-2021, 09:13 AM.
  • Sametbey
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    • Jan 2021
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    #2
    Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

    can you post your scheme. some notebooks have dual bios. EC and MAIN. main biosa can be active after start.
    Last edited by Sametbey; 05-19-2021, 10:53 AM.
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    • simabilisim
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      #3
      Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

      Originally posted by Sametbey
      can you post your scheme. some notebooks have dual bios. EC and MAIN. main biosa can be active after start.
      here you are

      bye the way, ec and main bios writed

      MOD Edit - link to schematic https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=123395
      .
      Last edited by SMDFlea; 09-11-2023, 04:38 AM.

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      • Sametbey
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        #4
        Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

        Let's start over. Are the DC_IN entry mosfets intact? Does the charge control chip send 3v to the 97 pin of the IO chip? Are there ENBL and PWGD signals on Pu2001 pins 1 and 2?
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        • simabilisim
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          #5
          Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

          DC_IN mosfets OK
          IO chip 97 at 3v OK
          PU2001 EN and PWGD no signal
          Interestingly at PU2002 no signal EN and PWGD but 5v LDO OK
          Last edited by simabilisim; 05-20-2021, 02:38 AM.

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          • simabilisim
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            • Mar 2017
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            #6
            Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

            PU2001 EN signal is OK when I remove the bios IC

            S5_ON signal is output on IO chip pin 100 when I remove the bios

            but PU2001 PWGD no signal

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            • Sametbey
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              • Jan 2021
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              #7
              Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

              In the scheme, when 3VLDO goes to IO, the power LED and EC_ON signal come to PU2001 with familiar information (AC_OK signal) from bios. ALW voltages are output. follow to steps
              When S5_ON signal is output, does 3VALW come out from PU2001, 5VALW?
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              Last edited by Sametbey; 05-21-2021, 01:00 AM.
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              • arber1232
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Dec 2019
                • 370
                • Albania

                #8
                Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

                hi everyone i have same problem laptop not start .Ac led is on . in power buton 3.3v is ok
                Pu2001 EN and PWGD no signal
                Pu2002 EN and PWGD no signal

                Pu2001 Ldo is 3.3v
                Pu2002 ldo is 5v
                Can i help me ??
                In R5131 on side is 3.3 v pcu and one side is 0 v to s5_on ? is ok the resistor is 10k and i measure is 9.9k
                Last edited by arber1232; 03-11-2022, 05:27 AM.

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                • mon2
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                  • Dec 2019
                  • 14169
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

                  is ok the resistor is 10k and i measure is 9.9k
                  Yes, it is ok.

                  Remove all power (no battery / no adapter).

                  Meter in resistance mode (2k scale) - check the resistance to ground of each large coil (probably grey in color; red meter lead) to ground (black meter lead).

                  Checking for low resistance to ground which may be due to a shorted capacitor.

                  Do you have the schematic for this logic board ? If yes, post it for reference.

                  I did find the boardview file (only) for the same.

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                  • arber1232
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                    • Dec 2019
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                    #10
                    Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

                    Originally posted by mon2
                    Yes, it is ok.

                    Remove all power (no battery / no adapter).

                    Meter in resistance mode (2k scale) - check the resistance to ground of each large coil (probably grey in color; red meter lead) to ground (black meter lead).

                    Checking for low resistance to ground which may be due to a shorted capacitor.

                    Do you have the schematic for this logic board ? If yes, post it for reference.

                    I did find the boardview file (only) for the same.
                    https://www.alisaler.com/hp-omen-17-...37a-schematic/ this is shcematic. I measuret coil motherboard is not shorts

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                    • arber1232
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                      • Dec 2019
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                      #11
                      Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

                      File boardwiev in this post work its ok open with openboard

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                      • lapfix
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                        • Mar 2020
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                        #12
                        Re: DAG37AMB8D0 very interesting problem

                        PQ1002 is p-channel what's the volt at his gate !
                        Pu 1001 voltages at pin : 5/6/16

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                        • palady
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                          • Jan 2014
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                          #13
                          By the way TIP OF THE DAY

                          CHECK THE POWER SUPPLY FIRST

                          check adapter type, AD_ID

                          1.8V ..... DIS
                          1.26V .... UMA

                          I WAS FIXING THE BOARD FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS, THEN I REALIZED, I HAD A WRONG POWER SUPPLY

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                          • ronaldopdias
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 93
                            • United Kingdon

                            #14
                            Hi! Here's a clearer and more technically accurate version of your message:

                            Hi everyone,

                            I'm having trouble with this laptop and could use some help, please.
                            • The charger shows a white light and orange when the battery is connected.
                            • When I press the power button, the white light on the charger blinks.
                            • I get the same reaction when testing the board standalone and triggering the power pads directly.
                            • I've flashed the BIOS firmware, but the issue persists.
                            • I haven't been able to flash the EC firmware, as I don't have access to a programmer.


                            +VIM = 19v
                            ACIN - 3V
                            LDO +3VPCU = 3.3V
                            LDO +5VPCU = 5.23V
                            VCCRTC +3V_RT = 3.16V
                            RTC_RS = 3.15V
                            SRTC_RST = 3.15V
                            RTC Clock 32.768KHz = 0.48V
                            +5ALW and +3ALV missing.
                            PWG missing.

                            On the resistor R5131 side +3VPCU it gets 3.3V, but on the other side S5_ON is 0V.

                            Everything else is missing.
                            No voltage on BIOS.
                            Using the original Charger.
                            No short on the coils.

                            Any help would be appreciated.

                            Thanks

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                            • mcplslg123
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 7262
                              • india

                              #15
                              ECRST#/RSMRST# present?

                              AFAIK, only 5V should be present in standby and 3V will rise only after pressing power button.

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                              • ronaldopdias
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2015
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                                #16
                                RSMRST - 0V
                                EC_RTC_RST - 0V
                                No short.

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                                • mon2
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                                  • Dec 2019
                                  • 14169
                                  • Canada

                                  #17
                                  RSMRST# - 0V
                                  EC_RTC_RST# - 0V
                                  Being active low signals (denoted by the # suffix), these lines are being parked into the RESET state.​

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                                  • ronaldopdias
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jul 2015
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                                    #18
                                    Do you think that EC firmware is corrupted?

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                                    • mcplslg123
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                                      #19
                                      EC_RST# and EC_RTC_RST# is not same.

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                                      • ronaldopdias
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jul 2015
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                                        #20
                                        Sorry for being silly, is that line known by any other name?
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